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Re: Reaching hooks for Spinnaker sheets?

Well hey! I gotta check that out! Thanks for the tip!
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Re: Reaching hooks for Spinnaker sheets?

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I'm not familiar with the term "twinger" how does this differ from a "Barber hauler"?
Twingers, twings, tweakers are an application of the general mechanism of a barber haul to a spin sheet and guy. A barber haul might also be applied to a jib sheet or other line on a sailboat.

For the OP, look at this video to see the use of twings. The higher the wind speed, the lower the blocks when running downwind (especially solo when it is critically important to limit spinnaker head oscillations which might result in a broach; on a reach some believe you should release the sheet twing to let the sail "breathe" - let air release from a flattened, not cupped, leech:


Adrian Johnson, winner of the 2010 Singlehanded Transpacific Race to Hawaii, always demonstrates masterfull twinger use on his Olson 30 videos - you can see them snubbed down to the deck at higher wind speeds:


,,,and here, too, one of my favorites (skip to 5:00 or 7:00 min marks for skillful twings in action):


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Re: Reaching hooks for Spinnaker sheets?

Okay, so it looks like the book I have uses a 470 for many of the diagrams and a lot of the pictured examples throughout the book. For those who are wondering, those pictures came from "Small Boat Sailing" by Bob Bond and Steve Sleight.

It looks like what I'm talking about might be a set of clam cleats placed near the shroud chain plates. I think these are used on a boat with spinnaker bags (non-shoot boat). It sounds like the ends of the sail are pulled out of the bag and cleated so the sail is ready to be raised.

Here is a small description from the book I found on another page:

"The two clews and the pouch, and the halyard is fastened under the reaching hook if the spinnaker is to be hoisted again soon.
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Re: Reaching hooks for Spinnaker sheets?

Sorry I'm late for this party, but if it helps, reaching hooks were something I looked into for racing whilst we had the Hartley - before deciding that, although seemingly a great idea, they weren't at all suitable on anything larger than a sportsboat.

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Okay, so it looks like the book I have uses a 470 for many of the diagrams and a lot of the pictured examples throughout the book. For those who are wondering, those pictures came from "Small Boat Sailing" by Bob Bond and Steve Sleight.

It looks like what I'm talking about might be a set of clam cleats placed near the shroud chain plates. I think these are used on a boat with spinnaker bags (non-shoot boat). It sounds like the ends of the sail are pulled out of the bag and cleated so the sail is ready to be raised.

Here is a small description from the book I found on another page:

"The two clews and the pouch, and the halyard is fastened under the reaching hook if the spinnaker is to be hoisted again soon.
Here's a pic of the 'reaching hooks' you're referring to in the 470 diagram:



These ones are kind-of a combination of cleat and hook and take a bit of getting used to if you don't want the spinnaker sheets to get jammed up on you. Yes, as the book says, you can hook the halyard into the windward one to have it within arms-reach ready for the hoist.

The regular variety 'reaching hook' is the one that zz4gta posted - you simply push the guy under the hook as you tear madly off downwind (no need for tweakers, twings, barber-haulers or any of that stuff). What many people don't like about them is that they aren't locking - by that I mean that if you hit a wave and the load comes off the guy it can pop out of the hook. IMO, a better arrangement is called a "deck hook" or a "brace hook" (the same thing):



What you use is entirely dependent on what kind of boat you have and what sort of sailing you do.


EDIT: I missed that you had a C-Lark 14 - if so, reaching hooks will be very suitable.. but what style you use will depend on how you want to use the kite. If you're an experienced go-fast racer, by all means use the clam-cleat one, otherwise maybe try a couple of deck hooks (the hook part points outwards) and see how you go.
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Re: Reaching hooks for Spinnaker sheets?

Reaching hooks are commonly used on ILYA Scow (symmetrical) spinnaker class boats.

Such boats usually use the 'two sheet' (sans foreguys) spinnaker control line method. This arrangement is to control 'down' pressure' on the windward corner of the symm spinnaker using such small boat end-for-end gybing technique. Usually there is a reefing hook (or more commonly an open sheave) mounted to the base of the cap shrouds. To use, the twings are are pulled fully down and the foredeck crew simply puts the (now lazy) spinnaker sheet under the hook/sheeve). No need for 'foreguys' as the lazy sheet now becomes the foreguy when held by the 'hook' or sheave roller.
This is quite standard on M20 and I20 ILYA scows.
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