canvas stitching - Page 2 - SailNet Community
 1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 20 Old 05-25-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 257
Thanks: 2
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Rep Power: 4
 
Re: canvas stitching

I took my sail cover to one of those sewing places in the mall that mainly do business hemming new pants or skirts. They have the industrial sewing machines.
I did not tell them to use polyester thread but I only wanted them to add some zigzags to the existing stitching. Cost me $10.
This winter I will get fabric, cut it and pin it and have them stitch me a new one. I will supply the thread.


1981 Edel 665
Dock C, Lake Front Promenade

Last edited by i_amcdn; 05-26-2014 at 09:29 AM.
i_amcdn is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 20 Old 05-25-2014 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
jvlassak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Boston area
Posts: 154
Thanks: 21
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: canvas stitching

That's not a bad idea. In my case, the canvas is in excellent condition, but the stitching is falling apart. Whoever made the dodger originally, clearly didn't use the best thread.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


1995 Pacific Seacraft 34
Iphigenia
jvlassak is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #13 of 20 Old 05-26-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 395
Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: canvas stitching

Before taking the cover to any shop, you might want to clean the cover. Even canvas shops might charge you for cleaning before sewing. The reason is to protect their machines.
Multihullgirl likes this.
TejasSailer is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to TejasSailer For This Useful Post:
Multihullgirl (05-26-2014)
post #14 of 20 Old 05-26-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 776
Thanks: 158
Thanked 67 Times in 63 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Re: canvas stitching

THANK YOU TS FOR SAYING THAT ABOUT CLEANING! Not only will your canvas fabricator thank you, but if you keep your canvas clean in general, it lasts longer. Dirt includes not only abrasive dust but also biologicals, all of which will work to eat your cloth and stitching.

A good V-92 thread, such as Heminway and Bartlett etc should last about five years. V-138 probably lasts a couple years more. Sunbrella is guaranteed for 10.

My usual advice is that you have the canvas fabricated, then in five years you get a restitch, then by the next restitch your canvas will likely need replacing.

Tenara thread is a PITA in a machine (which is one reason why it's expensive), but there are new brands of PTFE thread which are easier to use, is it Sunsure? But you still have to at least buy very particular needles to use any PTFE thread.

Last edited by Multihullgirl; 05-26-2014 at 09:34 AM.
Multihullgirl is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to Multihullgirl For This Useful Post:
jvlassak (05-26-2014)
post #15 of 20 Old 05-26-2014
Senior Member
 
vtsailguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Vermont
Posts: 510
Thanks: 7
Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Re: canvas stitching

Quote:
Originally Posted by TejasSailer View Post
Before taking the cover to any shop, you might want to clean the cover. Even canvas shops might charge you for cleaning before sewing. The reason is to protect their machines.
So I have a question (thread high jack approaching), what's the best way to clean a Bimini canvas?


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Three mini-pirates scour the Caribbean Seas with stops for ice cream and legos
Latest blog post:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
vtsailguy is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #16 of 20 Old 05-26-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 395
Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: canvas stitching

Quote:
Originally Posted by Multihullgirl View Post
Tenara thread is a PITA in a machine (which is one reason why it's expensive), but there are new brands of PTFE thread which are easier to use, is it Sunsure?
The other PTFE thread you mention might be Solarfix. From what I've read on other forums, Tenara tends to twist and knot more than Solarfix. Personally, I've never had a problem with Tenara, but at $125 a spool, and since I have two spools, I haven't tried Solarfix. I use the needles for Tenara that I use for bonded polyester

Based on posts in the Sailrite forums, Sailrite Ultrafeed machines seem to have a bit more difficulty with Tenara than industrial machines. Perhaps the reason is that Ultrafeed machines are oscillating hook machines but typical industrial machines, including the Sailrite industrial machine, are rotary hook machines.

As for cleaning canvas instructions such as Sunbrella:

Marine Tops and Covers Care and Cleaning: Sunbrella fabrics

and a video:

Care and Cleaning: How to: Sunbrella fabrics

Last edited by TejasSailer; 05-26-2014 at 04:41 PM.
TejasSailer is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to TejasSailer For This Useful Post:
Multihullgirl (05-27-2014)
post #17 of 20 Old 05-26-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 395
Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: canvas stitching

Quote:
Originally Posted by Multihullgirl View Post
[Y]ou still have to at least buy very particular needles to use any PTFE thread.
I typically use MR needles sewing canvas with both bonded polyester and Tenara, and have had no problems sewing with either.

"If fabricators have problems with skipped stitches, Singer's Multi-range (MR) needle (which has a deeper scarf than other needles) promotes the formation of thread 'looping'. Therefore, skipped stitches are eliminated."

Source: Gore Fibers
TejasSailer is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to TejasSailer For This Useful Post:
Multihullgirl (05-27-2014)
post #18 of 20 Old 05-26-2014
Owned by Velcro
 
Ferretchaser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: On a Boat
Posts: 756
Thanks: 16
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Re: canvas stitching

Once you have the drag on the bobbin and top adjusted right, Sewing Tenara is not difficult at all. I use a Sailrite machine. Your millage may differ

"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

Light travels faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak!.
Ferretchaser is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #19 of 20 Old 08-08-2015 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
jvlassak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Boston area
Posts: 154
Thanks: 21
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: canvas stitching

This is a thread I started about a year ago asking for some one who could do canvas work. Based on the responses, I got one of the sailrite machines instead and restitched the dodger myself. Today I restitched part of the UV protection on my genoa - the latest in a string of project - next up a proper winter cover. A great investment - thanks for the advise!


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


1995 Pacific Seacraft 34
Iphigenia
jvlassak is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #20 of 20 Old 08-08-2015
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 75
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Re: canvas stitching

Unless you're willing to do a lot of your own work, a sewing machine that will do it will cost too much. I killed 3 home version Singers (don't touch the wife's machine) and I bought one POS on eBay before I broke down and bought a Sailrite Zig Zag. Now she uses it for canvas bags and such so it pays for itself.

Ask around at your marina is anyone doing sewing? or who do they use? There's always somebody doing this for spending change. Or you can spend the money and the time to learn to do this stuff. Doing it right takes some practice, the first few projects will be somewhat frustrating, you won't learn this in a day.
wfish11 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Protective coatings for splices and stitching pdqaltair Gear & Maintenance 14 01-02-2014 05:34 PM
Lock stitching Amsteel splices pdqaltair Gear & Maintenance 8 12-12-2013 11:05 AM
Lock-stitching eye splice in 3-strand nylon? Irunbird General Discussion (sailing related) 4 05-09-2013 04:09 PM
canvas endevour General Discussion (sailing related) 1 02-17-2011 08:10 AM
Canvas akin_alan Gear & Maintenance 2 01-26-2002 05:04 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome