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Cradle question

I was replying to a post in another thread and it got me thinking about a problem I have with my cradle, and I was hoping someone here could give me some ideas.

The cradle that came w/ my 26' Pearson doesn't fit it. The boat sits on its keel, then each end of the cradle has a piece of plywood cut to the approximate shape of the hull for the boat to rest on. The problem is that they're too far apart and the aft one isn't shaped correctly. The one in front supports the boat properly at the front bulkhead, but the back one is about 18" aft of the back bulkhead, instead of underneath the bulkhead where it SHOULD be. The cradle is solid steel beams (at least, I think it's steel), and there are no adjustments for overall length. Other cradles in the yard all have adjustable pads, sort of like what's on top of boat jacks.

Sooo.. what's the best way to fix this?

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Re: Cradle question

A picture would help a lot. I built my own cradle as well as a trailer for my 32 ft boat. Any welding shop should be able to modify your cradle. The adjustable pads are available individually for about $75 a piece.
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Re: Cradle question

Re-shape the aft plywood support and move it 18" forward? Or make a new one. You may have to weld or bolt in..(or both)...two lengths of angle iron vertically to bolt in the new plywood support in the new correct position. Pictures could help.
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Re: Cradle question

Thanks for the replies; I'll snap some pictures next time I go up to the boat.. hopefully tomorrow. Moving the back support to where it should be and reshaping the plywood is of course one option.. it's HOW to move the back support forward I'm not real clear on.

I don't know anything really about welding. Can it be done on site? I have a friend who does great welding work, but he uses a flux welder that needs serious current, and there's no 220 where the boat is. Can it be welded w/ oxy-acetelene? When one of you mentioned that any welding shop could do this, do they typically make "house calls," or would I need to find some way of schlepping this monster steel contraption TO them?

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Can it be done on site?
Yes, there are a lot of guys who have mobile units mounted on their trucks. It would be very basic fabricating. Without seeing it I would think it could be done in an hour or two.
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Yes, there are a lot of guys who have mobile units mounted on their trucks. It would be very basic fabricating. Without seeing it I would think it could be done in an hour or two.
Thanks, krazz. I just found a welding company based about 15 miles from my boat and talked to them. I'm going to send'em some pictures and they'll get back to me w/ an estimate or to schedule a time for an onsite estimate if necessary. They did say if they can get it done in less than 8 hours, it won't be more than $600. Hopefully, your timeline of an hour or two is closer... but in any case it'll get fixed somehow and I won't have to stress next winter about the oil-canning of my hull.

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Re: Cradle question

If they quote anywhere near 8 hours get a second opinion. I built my cradle from scratch in about 8 hours and I feel mine is way overbuilt compared to other ones in my marina. I would expect it to come back in the 1 to 2 hour range.
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Re: Cradle question

Seems to me that you want your hull supports to line up with the internal bulkheads. This should minimize hull distortion.
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Seems to me that you want your hull supports to line up with the internal bulkheads. This should minimize hull distortion.
Exactly. If I wasn't clear about stating that as the problem I'm trying to correct, I apologize. The aft internal bulkhead lines up on a vertical line with the aftmost swept-back part of the keel. My cradle currently supports the boat about 18" further back than that, hence the distortion. Not good, and needs to be remedied.

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Re: Cradle question

For years I used a Jowi cradle to store my boat (since moved to stands). Fully adjustable. Here's a link - you might get some ideas on how to modify yours.

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