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New ignition switch for Universal 5416

Where can I find a new ignition switch for a Universal 5416? I found this site:
Universal 300671 Sailboat Supplies, Engine Parts and Boat Parts

But they don't ship to New Jersey or Pennsylvania.

Just an FYI: if you have funky electrical problems when starting the boat, especially on an older boat, check the ignition switch first. We spent 5 hours yesterday debugging the starter circuit just to find out it is probably the switch.
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Re: New ignition switch for Universal 5416

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Where can I find a new ignition switch for a Universal 5416? I found this site:
Universal 300671 Sailboat Supplies, Engine Parts and Boat Parts

But they don't ship to New Jersey or Pennsylvania.

Just an FYI: if you have funky electrical problems when starting the boat, especially on an older boat, check the ignition switch first. We spent 5 hours yesterday debugging the starter circuit just to find out it is probably the switch.
Hey Jim, Silver Cloud is the local Universal dealer. Dave usually stocks common items like this or can get them in 48 hours.

To compare prices check out the switch from CatalinaDirect.

You might also want to look at this page on MaineSail's web site. The 80's Universal's had some issues with the wiring harness.

Hope all is well with you, too much work this year, so far zero sailing days
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Re: New ignition switch for Universal 5416

I didn't look at these sites too closely, you may have already eliminated these:

WESTERBEKE 300671 - Westerbeke Ignition Switch 300671
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I don't know this engine, but, is it possible to use a switch that is not made just for this engine?
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Re: New ignition switch for Universal 5416

Jim! Thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear that you haven't been out on Island Time. Hopefully that means that work is going well and keeping you busy. It's the "right" kind of problem to have!

As for me, work has been busy, we've had lots of other commitments, and the "inlet" to Lanoka Harbor is silted over so bad that my 3'10" couldn't get out earlier this season. Went down yesterday and thanks to the chop, we BARELY made it out. So, I am thinking that this may wind up being a lost season. I won't go back to Silver Cloud, but won't stay here, either. So, I need to find a place to winter.

In the mean time, I've been talking to NJDMV and NJDEP about getting the inlet dredged. They have been very nice about it. Apparently Ocean County can't decide where to put the dredging spoils, and that's the only thing holding up the work. So, until that happens, I'm kind of trapped in the marina.

Anyway...regarding the ignition switch, thanks for the leads. I saw that wiring harness when I was in there and thought it looked pretty sad. Guess I'll have to add that to my list of projects! At least it's just rewiring and crimping. Seems like it's time to buy a new crimper (following Maine Sail's advice).
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Re: New ignition switch for Universal 5416

Barquito, thanks for those links. It SHOULD be possible; it's a fairly simple switch. There's the "accessory" position which enables the glow plugs, etc., then there's the "START" which is a momentary switch. It's pretty simple, really. But I figured this particular switch lasted almost 40 years, so why not replace it with the same thing.
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Re: New ignition switch for Universal 5416

I've used pretty standard, readily available Cole -Hersee switches, they are used by many boats.
Ignition Switches | Ignition Switches for marine applications | Cole Hersee - Littelfuse
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Re: New ignition switch for Universal 5416

No engine manufacturer makes ignition switches - they buy them. But their prices are usually very high compared to the manufacturer's price. Cole Hersee makes marine ignition switches for any situation.
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Re: New ignition switch for Universal 5416

Thanks guys! I ordered from Catalina Direct. Their price was better than what I found other places, and over all I've been happy with them in the past.
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Re: New ignition switch for Universal 5416

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Jim! Thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear that you haven't been out on Island Time. Hopefully that means that work is going well and keeping you busy. It's the "right" kind of problem to have!
Jim, I'm not complaining. Better to be working but I can count on one hand the number of days off this year...

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As for me, work has been busy, we've had lots of other commitments, and the "inlet" to Lanoka Harbor is silted over so bad that my 3'10" couldn't get out earlier this season. Went down yesterday and thanks to the chop, we BARELY made it out. So, I am thinking that this may wind up being a lost season. I won't go back to Silver Cloud, but won't stay here, either. So, I need to find a place to winter.
I wish I could give you an opinion on Ted's but other than tying my boat into the slip I haven't been there !

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In the mean time, I've been talking to NJDMV and NJDEP about getting the inlet dredged. They have been very nice about it. Apparently Ocean County can't decide where to put the dredging spoils, and that's the only thing holding up the work. So, until that happens, I'm kind of trapped in the marina.
That sucks. Is there any level of government that actually works anymore?

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Anyway...regarding the ignition switch, thanks for the leads. I saw that wiring harness when I was in there and thought it looked pretty sad. Guess I'll have to add that to my list of projects! At least it's just rewiring and crimping. Seems like it's time to buy a new crimper (following Maine Sail's advice).
Check out Catalina Direct and Univeral. There's a replacement wiring harness and if I remember right it's under $100. So the upgrade shouldn't be too bad.

Take a look at the c34.org tech wiki. I seem to remember there's information there on installing the upgraded harness. If I'm remembering correctly this affected several Universal marine engine models.

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You might also want to look at this page on MaineSail's web site. The 80's Universal's had some issues with the wiring harness.
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