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harness and tether

am planning on crewing on a trimaran from hawaii to sf. am looking for a safety harness and tether to take with. i have climbing harnesses but am told that those are not safe for sailing as they tend to keep the body in the water. so, i looked at west marine and saw this: WEST MARINE Ultimate Safety Harness | West Marine. it doesn't look that special! is that the best option?

how about a tether? will a standard climbing tether be just fine?
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am planning on crewing on a trimaran from hawaii to sf. am looking for a safety harness and tether to take with. i have climbing harnesses but am told that those are not safe for sailing as they tend to keep the body in the water. so, i looked at west marine and saw this: WEST MARINE Ultimate Safety Harness | West Marine. it doesn't look that special! is that the best option?

how about a tether? will a standard climbing tether be just fine?
You must think usability.
What kind of PFD?
You should be able to wear
- foul weather gear
- PFD
- harness
At the same time without one interfering with the other.

A typical climbing harness have the attachment for the tether to far down, would easily end up being towed head down.

I personally prefer a inflatable PFD with integrated harnes.

The tether must not be to long (preferably keep you on the boat) and should have two hooks so you are always clipped on.
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Re: harness and tether

instead of foulies, i have gore tex, north face, mountaineering jacket and bib.

what brand inflatable pfd + integrated harness do you recommend? and tether?
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instead of foulies, i have gore tex, north face, mountaineering jacket and bib.
Will probably keep you dry and warm, the three layer clothing works in the mountain and on the water

The point I was trying to make was that you must take the gear on and off several times during a trip like this.
And it must be used at the same time without interfering with each other.

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what brand inflatable pfd + integrated harness do you recommend? and tether?
Don't know what kind of makes & models you can find.
Should have
-crotch strap to prevent it from riding up.
-Sprayhood
-light

On some models / makes these are extras, so check that before comparing.
Try it on it should be comfortable using and working in.

I have a Spinlock Deckvest,
disclaimer: I know that it's not USCG approved and that some have died when using a PFD of this type.
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Re: harness and tether

Suggest a Wichard ORC tether (Wichard ORC Bermuda Race Tether) and a Mustang Ocean Series Hydrostatic vest with integrated harness. A crotch strap is sold separately. Needs to provide adequate protection and be comfortable too --ese you won't wear it. Add a water activated strobe and whistle. Since you'll be offshore, think about a PLB as well. Carry a knife on your person.
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Re: harness and tether

These things are very pricey Any options that do the job and are less expensive?
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Re: harness and tether

Yeah, but don't be the guy who, during his memorial service, they say, "but he saved $50 by making his own harness and tether...". They wouldn't put it on your tombstone because they probably wouldn't find your body. I check my inflatable each year (max 18 months) by jumping in while wearing it. I've never gone overboard and each year, the vest inflates perfectly -- costing me ~$25 for the re-arming kit I need to purchase. I don't want to go overboard at night (or anytime) and learn then that my PFD won't inflate. There are other things to save money on. Don't DIY here unless you really --REALLY -- know what you're doing. You pay for research, testing, quality materiels and decades of experience in maritime safety. #petpeeve
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Re: harness and tether

I did a fair amount research before our trip to Bermuda. Some general learned information I wrote up here. For first time blue water crew member

I chose not to get the auto-inflate PFD. A friend who got the hydrostatic model watched it inflate while rinsing the salt off when we got to Bermuda. I know that it's not supposed to do that, but it did.

You DEFINATELY want the harness/PFD combination. I didn't get that and was really sorry each time I prepared for the night watch in the dark.

My wife got this and liked it very much. Note: This model does not have a crotch strap.
Defender.com Search Results: 552188PFDRBCA

For the tether, you will want the retractable tether with a 6' and a 3' strap. One of the crew had a tether whose 3' strap was not retractable. I liked the look of that.

ASP-283SETE
Double Retractable Tether
Kong ISAF Safety Harness Tethers
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Re: harness and tether

I personally like the Spinlock inflatable with integrated harness. It fits me well and is comfortable over long periods. Comfort is very important. Crotch straps are also critical and these come integrated as well.

Plenty of people wear non-sailing clothing and it can work. However, sailing foulies do have some important features you may not find in mountaineering gear. Aboard a sailboat, you will be raising your arms frequently, so having snug wrist closures will limit the amount of water that runs down your arm, inside your jacket. Serious offshore jackets have water tight wrist seals. The high neck rolls on foulies is also pretty helpful, as it keeps you remarkably warmer in the wind, which you can find yourself sitting in for a half day. What is comfortable for an hour or two, could make you hypothermic after 10 hours. You lose a ton of heat from the neck up.
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Re: harness and tether

Being using spinloc deckvest for 10+ years.
By far the most comfortable and in my opinion best designed integrated pfd and harness around. Lasteat models have spray hood, cutter, whistle and locating light built in.
Integrated leg loops/crotch strap allows you to choose most comfortable set up for you.
Soft tether attachment wieghts less and more comfortable than large metal D rings
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