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Thanks for all the input.

Winch is a Barlow #27 made in Australia. Pic below. One thing I was confused about is how to remove the winch. Apparently Barlow had a special tool, but without it you can stick a small rod into one of the two holes at top of winch and use handle to unscrew. Here are some documents I found concerning the winch. In the near future I will take apart clean and lube.

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if you read that well casey, guess what barlow says to use on the pawls?

good ole sae30 oil...!!!!

and they top it off by saying to not use grease...and this isnt that uncommon advice

some people think greasing pawls even with light lithium grease is good when in reality its not necessary

now gears and other moving parts have at it but the faster the pawls move the better

the best method is to take them apart often and clean and lube...but most of us want the at least last 1, 2 years before removing them again.

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Thanks for all the input.

Winch is a Barlow #27 made in Australia. Pic below. One thing I was confused about is how to remove the winch. Apparently Barlow had a special tool, but without it you can stick a small rod into one of the two holes at top of winch and use handle to unscrew. Here are some documents I found concerning the winch. In the near future I will take apart clean and lube.

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http://www.cheoyleeassociation.com/R...t%20Winchs.pdf

Dismantling Tool:
HUTTON-ARCO Yacht Winches

Parts Supply:
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If they aren't too seized up from neglect, that cap can be removed using a spring style deck plate key
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The digital camera is your friend. Take pictures of EVERY STEP as you dismantle them.

Tape down the edges of the box around the winch. Those springs will try to escape and go for a swim.

If you have a cat watch that he does not disappear with a tinkly thing to play with. Ask me how I know this is important.
Crap!!!! I was going to rebuild my winches this weekend, but now I have to stop and go shopping for a cat! I'm glad I stopped in here today. Have you every tried to find a cat when you needed one on short notice!
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Crap!!!! I was going to rebuild my winches this weekend, but now I have to stop and go shopping for a cat! I'm glad I stopped in here today. Have you every tried to find a cat when you needed one on short notice!
I got plenty of cats to choose from right in my own harbor. Hawaii has a huge feral cat problem.
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Sloop .... I must try the lithium grease. If it does work as well as you say then I owe you a beer or ten.

btw ... when I said oil I did mean a light machine oil used very sparingly.

In the past when setting to work on a newly acquired boat I've always found the winches to be over greased with springs and pawls clogged up with the stuff. That is why I tend to accept the conventional wisdom, its always worked for me. I still don't think it is bad advice but I'm more than willing to try something new.

Not my thread but thanks for the advice.
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I got plenty of cats to choose from right in my own harbor. Hawaii has a huge feral cat problem.
That pic reminded me of an old cartoon - a woman is standing in her front door and there's a pile of cats like that outside. The caption is "We hear that today is your 40th birthday and you're still single".

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Sloop .... I must try the lithium grease. If it does work as well as you say then I owe you a beer or ten.

btw ... when I said oil I did mean a light machine oil used very sparingly.

In the past when setting to work on a newly acquired boat I've always found the winches to be over greased with springs and pawls clogged up with the stuff. That is why I tend to accept the conventional wisdom, its always worked for me. I still don't think it is bad advice but I'm more than willing to try something new.

Not my thread but thanks for the advice.
Try it like I described on one winch - I'll bet you'll be a convert. I've always found the winches on my "new" boats to be gunked up with old dried grease and dirt - hadn't been serviced for a decade or more.
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