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Captive winch genoa furler

Sometimes I surprise myself.
I had been playing with ideas to make our furler into a pushbutton system for a long time.
$6500 I can have a proper one, gasp.

I had thought of a harbor freight winch, but I realized that would be very slow.

Our furler line needs to move about 35'.

What about a captive winch that would fuel or unfurl 35' of line?
So I thought a bit, and came up with this:
TRAC OUTDOOR PRODUCTS Fisherman 25 Electric Anchor Winch | West Marine
I would hook this to an amp meter, that would be right next to the switch. So if the furler gets stuck, I don't damage anything.

Thoughts?

http://newcontent.westmarine.com/con...l/12869616.jpg

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Re: Captive winch genoa furler

At best it's going to take 30 seconds for furl the sail (60 ft/min no load)... seems like a long time when you can do it by hand in 5-10 secs most days?

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At best it's going to take 30 seconds for furl the sail (60 ft/min no load)... seems like a long time when you can do it by hand in 5-10 secs most days?
I can do it in about 20-30 off the wind.


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Re: Captive winch genoa furler

I've got an electric furling winch on my boat, thanks to the PO. Frankly, it's a waste of resources and needless complication. If the loads are high enough to require the winch, you risk damaging the furler and/or sail. Better to fall off to the point that you can do it manually.
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Barlow Barient #2 Wire Halyard Winch Australia by reelsmooth
put an electric winch handle on this and you are set


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Sometimes I surprise myself.
I had been playing with ideas to make our furler into a pushbutton system for a long time.
$6500 I can have a proper one, gasp.

I had thought of a harbor freight winch, but I realized that would be very slow.

Our furler line needs to move about 35'.

What about a captive winch that would fuel or unfurl 35' of line?
So I thought a bit, and came up with this:
TRAC OUTDOOR PRODUCTS Fisherman 25 Electric Anchor Winch | West Marine
I would hook this to an amp meter, that would be right next to the switch. So if the furler gets stuck, I don't damage anything.

Thoughts?

http://newcontent.westmarine.com/con...l/12869616.jpg

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Seems like a dumb idea, to me... Hey, you asked, right? :-)

What happens if something jams/craps out with the sail halfway furled? How are you gonna free that line?

By far the easiest way to mangle a headsail furler is to put it to an electric winch... Just ask Dr. Stanley Paris...


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Re: Captive winch genoa furler

I do not have a spare $3500 for an electric winch, or I would.

BTW the maximum force this unit can put out is 100#.


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Re: Captive winch genoa furler

Sounds like you are trying to solve a problem that isn't really a problem. If you are having problems getting the sail furled manually figure out the root cause of that problem and fix it. If you get that electric winch can we start a pool on how long it lasts? I would choose a low number. After it quits (in the middle of some ocean perhaps) you are back to your original setup that seems to not work well.
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Re: Captive winch genoa furler

Buy yourself a Milwaukee Right Angle Drill (see/click-on Milwaukee-M28-28-Volt-Lithium-Ion-1-2-in-Cordless-Right-Angle-Drill-) and a Winch Bit for less than $500.00 all up and all of your winches will/can be "electric". We've used the Milwaukee Drill since 2006 and have been very happy with it. Even my 105# (much) better half has no trouble trimming or furling the head sails or hoisting the Main.

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Re: Captive winch genoa furler

the only issue with it now is its hard to do on a port tack with the sail full.
It comes down to running back and forth in the cockpit, or trying to balance two sheets.
Its just a bit of a pain when in the cockpit solo.


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