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Raritan PHII toilets

I have two of these and thought until this year that I liked them. I have been chasing down leaks on both of them this year and have now realized that both of them have small cracks in underside of the base. All the rebuild kits in the world aren't going to solve that problem.

Has anyone else had this with the PHII heads? I am thinking replacing the base is going to be a pain, but that's where I'm headed I think. They are at least 10 years old, so I suppose it's inevitable.

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Re: Raritan PHII toilets

I have a Raritan PHII on my present boat and have had them on other boats as well. To me they represent one of the best of the reasonably priced toilets that are out there. I just rebuilt mine last spring and the parts were readily available through Raritan, although they are not inexpensive.

What I like about the PHII is that it needs comparatively little maintenance, the parts can be easily removed and replaced (unlike a similar priced PAR) and the parts are readily available.

If there is a shortcoming it is the connection between the base and the waste discharge elbow which can be difficult to seat properly with the force of any misalignment in a modern heavy wall hose. I actually made a small clamping device that I used to pull the parts together and in alignment so that I could get the bolts into place without straining the plastic. I also added large washers under the heads of the bolts and nuts to spread the load.

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Re: Raritan PHII toilets

We have two. In stead of replacement, how about repair?
Grind a V shape into the plastic where it is cracked, and fill with resin, then put a single piece of fiberglass cloth on top and work it in. Will be surprised if that does not solve the issue.


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Re: Raritan PHII toilets

Pretty sure material is poly based so not sure if epoxy will work.

I have two Raritain heads, one in steady use for 12 years now and still going strong.
my recommendation is check out raritain engineering site and order the replacement part and your back in business. Coat a few dollars but substantially cheaper than new head, and be a shame to swap out for a cheap weekend head.
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Re: Raritan PHII toilets

Going on 22 years with Raritan PHII in two different boats, few problems or complaints. They will provide parts, maybe more costly than you'd like but nice to stick with something that works..

Any chance it was ever frozen undrained?? Hard to imagine another way for that part to crack.
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You guys are making me feel very smart for replacing my Jabsco with a Raritan last year. Hope the PHC proves as reliable as the PHII.

So far, so good.
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Re: Raritan PHII toilets

I hate the PHll heads, but we use ours every single day, not just now and then. Both ours cracked at the pump/exhaust hose junction and that requires a complete pump unit for replacement, nearly the price of a new head. I chose to replace the pump on one with the Jabsco electric conversion which solves the problem permanently and will do the other when I find a good deal on another Jabsco conversion or find a Wilcox/Crittenden Skipper head; now that was a great marine toilet!
I did try to repair one, but as mentioned nothing will stick to that plastic and even when I melted the same plastic as a repair it just recracked.

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I hate the PHll heads, but we use ours every single day, not just now and then. Both ours cracked at the pump/exhaust hose junction and that requires a complete pump unit for replacement, nearly the price of a new head. I chose to replace the pump on one with the Jabsco electric conversion which solves the problem permanently and will do the other when I find a good deal on another Jabsco conversion or find a Wilcox/Crittenden Skipper head; now that was a great marine toilet!
I did try to repair one, but as mentioned nothing will stick to that plastic and even when I melted the same plastic as a repair it just recracked.
Being using ours daily for 5 years (perm liveaboards) and only repair has been replacement of jocker valve. Cracked pump housing usually from frost damage or overtightening of screws holding jocker valve and outlet bracket.
raritain provides bare pump housing, no need to by complete pump.
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Being using ours daily for 5 years (perm liveaboards) and only repair has been replacement of jocker valve. Cracked pump housing usually from frost damage or overtightening of screws holding jocker valve and outlet bracket.
raritain provides bare pump housing, no need to by complete pump.
Not too much frost down here in the Caribbean. Last I checked the pump housing was around us$170.00, not all that cheap. No screw tightening will crack the housings at the base under the outlet fixture. The outlet design does not allow for the newer less flexible hoses of today, as mentioned above.

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Re: Raritan PHII toilets

A new Jabsco was cheaper then a new pump for the PHII. Same bolt pattern, so fit just right.
Now walking through Malaysian customs from Singapore toting a toilet over my shoulder was a different story....


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