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Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

Hi, this wanna be my new project for the next 3-4 years!. This is a Cheoy Lee Luders 36, and has a major damage on the hull. I am wondering if itís possible to bring such a hull back at its original condition and make her again a seaworthy offshore cruiser.





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Re: Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

It's FRP therefore fixable, but a thorough survey or evaluation by skilled specialist will give you full extent of damage and costs, nice project at the right price. Merry Christmas
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Re: Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

It is only time and money...and it can be fixed, but as rugosa says, it may not be "worth" it, down the road.

ie You may never break even or not lose big time on your time and money. As slowly as this appears to have happened, I would surely have a surveyor render an opinion, if not a full survey.

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Re: Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

Any other visible issues? Teak decks, mechanical/plumbing/electric? For this type of visible hull damage has the boat been abandoned?
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Re: Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

That hull damage under the 'jackstand' can be repaired - probably also has gross delamination in the adjacent area and you'll not know how extensive until you 'open' it.

Id be far more keenly concerned with that crack at the top of the encapsulated keel ballast, as this is a MAJOR MAJOR issue and in an extremely stress sensitive / stress critical area. Further and especially if water has penetrated into the ballast 'cavity', and if the ballast is iron and is now 'rusting' such an extensive repair can possibly only result in a 'heartache' when the rust continues to 'push' that encapsulation apart and 'down deeper' than that crack.

That keel crack is along the upper top margin of the ballast -- such a repair there is going to have to be critically 'awesome'. IMO - this keel crack is suggestive of a complete structural failure, not fixable via a simple cosmetic repair.
see the line drawing: LUDERS 36 (CHEOY LEE) sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
If the ballast is LEAD, then you have a minor chance at restoration; but, this is going to involve some pretty 'severe' repair and unless you are 'very good' with tapering and precise epoxy fiberglass repair work and are very precise at restoring back to the OEM structural geometry and surface curves at the turn of the bilge and deeply into the hull ... Id make the suggestion to look for a hull that isnt 'totaled'.
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Re: Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

In addition to Rich's comments, these boats are known to have deck/house issues with plenty of plywood used. Before you even start thinking about hull repairs have the entire deck and house inspected.. After such obvious neglect this is probably not a good candidate for restoration.

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Re: Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

Looks like no chain on the stands and no pads...anyone who'd block a boat like that has probably abused her in numerous other ways. First thing any dreamer who takes on this boat (hopefully getting a few thousand dollars for taking it of the owner (or yard's) plate, is spend that few thousand to properly block the boat on new stands.

I suspect a few pictures of the deck would be an eyeful.

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Re: Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

The hull damage is repairable and the keel joint issue is real easy the keel is lead and bolted on so drop and rebed solves that issue I would be most concerned with what may have been damaged inside and in the hull layup in the area where the stand penetrated the hull get a good survey or at least a shipwright to take a serious look with and for you before investing any money in this project

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Re: Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

Check out the free PDF archives or call the free tech support at West Systems to get some idea of what fiberglass structural repairs involve for a job like this. Professional repairs will cost money, DIY is feasible if you've got the skills. But as others have said, get some professional advice on whether there is other damage to the boat and whether it will be worth repairing overall.
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Re: Major Hull damage - Cheoy Lee Ludders

That's an easy pass. It's worth less than zero. Just go get a free boat.
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