Red over Green mount - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Chat  
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #1  
Old 1 Week Ago
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Victoria - BC
Posts: 112
Thanks: 8
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 2
alctel is on a distinguished road
Red over Green mount

I have a 360 degree red and a 360 degree green LED series 34 lights from Aqua Signal, that I would like to use as the red over green option on my mast.

Has anyone else done this? I guess I can't use metal as it would screw with the radio reception...

I looked at the 2 180 degree lights but the only ones I could find were horrendously expensive so went with the 360s.
__________________
Owner of a 1980 36' Hunter

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 1 Week Ago
SVAuspicious's Avatar
Mermaid Hunter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: on the boat - Chesapeake
Posts: 3,754
Thanks: 0
Thanked 138 Times in 123 Posts
Rep Power: 9
SVAuspicious will become famous soon enough
Re: Red over Green mount

Google:

red over green site:sailnet.com
__________________
sail fast and eat well, dave
S/V Auspicious
AuspiciousWorks.com
beware "cut and paste" sailors.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 1 Week Ago
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Victoria - BC
Posts: 112
Thanks: 8
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 2
alctel is on a distinguished road
Re: Red over Green mount

Yeah I had a look and could only find one example of the actual mounting, the rest seems to be a general discussion about what to use
__________________
Owner of a 1980 36' Hunter

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 1 Week Ago
capta's Avatar
Master Mariner
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: somewhere in the Windward or Leeward Islands
Posts: 1,828
Thanks: 19
Thanked 94 Times in 89 Posts
Rep Power: 4
capta is on a distinguished road
Re: Red over Green mount

Here's how it's normally done. On one side of the mast (the fore in this case) alongside it, not above it. It's not like one can hold a perfect course and it will always be behind the mast and it shines through the sail to some degree.
Attached Thumbnails
Red over Green mount-westward-.jpg  
__________________
"Any idiot can make a boat go; it takes a sailor to stop one." Spike Africa aboard the schooner Wanderer in Sausalito, Ca. 1964.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to capta For This Useful Post:
alctel (1 Week Ago)
  #5  
Old 1 Week Ago
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Victoria - BC
Posts: 112
Thanks: 8
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 2
alctel is on a distinguished road
Re: Red over Green mount

Quote:
Originally Posted by capta View Post
Here's how it's normally done. On one side of the mast (the fore in this case) alongside it, not above it. It's not like one can hold a perfect course and it will always be behind the mast and it shines through the sail to some degree.
I'll probably end up doing this rather than trying to build a mount on top of my sail. Thanks!
__________________
Owner of a 1980 36' Hunter

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 1 Week Ago
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Norway
Posts: 756
Thanks: 7
Thanked 56 Times in 51 Posts
Rep Power: 9
knuterikt is on a distinguished road
Re: Red over Green mount

Quote:
Originally Posted by alctel View Post
I'll probably end up doing this rather than trying to build a mount on top of my sail. Thanks!
The colregs found here http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/navRules/navrules.pdf Can give you some input.

Here is some quotes.

RULE 25
Quote:
(c) A sailing vessel underway may, in addition to the lights prescribed in
paragraph (a) of this Rule, exhibit at or near the top of the mast, where they
can best be seen, two all-round lights in a vertical line, the upper being red
and the lower green, but these lights shall not be exhibited in conjunction
with the combined lantern permitted by paragraph (b) of this Rule.
ANNEX I
i)
Quote:
(i) When the Rules prescribe two or three lights to be carried in a vertical
line, they shall be spaced as follows:
(i) on a vessel of 20 meters in length or more such lights shall be
spaced not less than 2 meters apart, and the lowest of these lights
shall, except where a towing light is required, be placed at a height
of not less than 4 meters above the hull;
(ii) on a vessel of less than 20 meters in length such lights shall be
spaced not less than 1 meter apart and the lowest of these lights
shall, except where a towing light is required, be placed at a height
of not less than 2 meters above the gunwale;
(iii) when three lights are carried they shall be equally spaced.
9. Horizontal sectors
Quote:
(b)
(i) All-round lights shall be so located as not to be obscured by masts,
topmasts or structures within angular sectors of more than 6
degrees, except anchor lights prescribed in Rule 30, which need
not be placed at an impracticable height above the hull.
(ii) If it is impracticable to comply with paragraph (b)(i) of this section
by exhibiting only one all-round light, two all-round lights shall be
used suitably positioned or screened so that they appear, as far as
practicable, as one light at a distance of one mile.”
so it's easy to do a small test to find out how far from the mast you need to place the light so you get the obstructed sector < 6 degrees

While browsing the US pdf version of the international rules i found this illustration

Last edited by knuterikt; 1 Week Ago at 02:40 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 1 Week Ago
SailRedemption's Avatar
formerly 'BoatyardBoy'
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NOLA
Posts: 346
Thanks: 133
Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts
Rep Power: 2
SailRedemption is on a distinguished road
Re: Red over Green mount

I used 2 180* lights for each.. I was going to so 360* lights but I didn't want to build the pole on top of my already tall mast.

- Ronnie...on the geaux
Attached Thumbnails
Red over Green mount-uploadfromtaptalk1421394679243.jpg  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 1 Week Ago
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Muskegon, Mich
Posts: 73
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Rep Power: 2
capt jgwinks is on a distinguished road
Re: Red over Green mount

The difficulty in mounting these lights is one reason they're so rarely seen. Also remember that the red over green combo must be used WITH the side lights and stern light on deck, not instead of. That makes a minimum of four bulbs burning, and five if you have the separate side lights. All this with the engine off. You're not a sailing vessel if the engine is engaged. They might make sense on a 100 foot tallship, but I don't see any use for them on a normal sized yacht. If you want to be visible from a greater distance, go with the tricolor light at the masthead. Only one bulb burning then.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 1 Week Ago
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Norway
Posts: 756
Thanks: 7
Thanked 56 Times in 51 Posts
Rep Power: 9
knuterikt is on a distinguished road
Re: Red over Green mount

Quote:
Originally Posted by capt jgwinks View Post
The difficulty in mounting these lights is one reason they're so rarely seen. Also remember that the red over green combo must be used WITH the side lights and stern light on deck, not instead of. That makes a minimum of four bulbs burning, and five if you have the separate side lights. All this with the engine off. You're not a sailing vessel if the engine is engaged. They might make sense on a 100 foot tallship, but I don't see any use for them on a normal sized yacht. If you want to be visible from a greater distance, go with the tricolor light at the masthead. Only one bulb burning then.
With modern led lights the power consumption is reduced significantly.
boats with LOA less than 20 meters can use a combined starboard/port light.

The benefit with deck level lights combined with red/green in the mast is that you are more easily spotted both short and long distance.

You can off course alternate between deck level and tricolor but not both at the same time..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Red over Green vs Tricolour alctel Gear & Maintenance 11 3 Weeks Ago 03:17 PM
Red over Green Navigation Light johnnyquest37 Gear & Maintenance 49 12-04-2014 03:25 PM
Red / Green Running Light Wiring wsmurdoch Pacific Seacraft 6 06-21-2014 12:11 AM
Red Over Green pvanv1 Gear & Maintenance 28 12-19-2011 01:39 AM
Beneteau vs. Yanmar – Green vs. Red Cooling Fluid Swesail Gear & Maintenance 37 04-14-2009 01:32 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:45 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.