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Winch Questions

Thanks to all for the responses. I'm still a little shaky on the self tailing winches, but I'll get a marina mate to show me.

I have cleats next to all of my winches, so that has not been an issue. However, when beating or reaching, I have been avoiding using the winches to adjust sheets by simply turning a little into the wind to get the sail to luff, and then tightening as necessary. Perhaps I'm a little too sensitive to the loads. The boat can take more than I have dished out.
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Too Small ?

It is possible that your winches are a bit on the small side if you are having trouble grinding them in. Check you manufacturers web page for suggested sail areas to see if this is an issue.

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It could also be that the winches may need a bit of TLC. If the internals haven't been recently CLA'd then they may make it a good deal harder to winch in than should be the case.

PS. CLA-Clean Lube Adjust... from my photog days.

BTW, what size and make are the winches, and what kind of boat are they on??? I can't think of many boats that come will all self-tailing winches, much less 10 of them. Most come with 2-6 self-tailing winches, depending on how the genny sheets, spinnaker sheets and main sheet are rigged. The ones on the mast, usually 2 winches, are usually not self-tailing.
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How easy is it to clean/lube self tailing winches?

I am familiar with the process to take apart and clean single speed winches (Lewmar and Barient), but am a bit intimidated by the two speed self-tailing winches on my larger boat. I have read instructions and reviewed diagrams, but that hasn't made me feel any more comfortable with tackling this. The boat is in the water, so I'm also concerned about losing parts overboard (I know about placing a cardboard box over the winch to catch stray items, but I think this will be only marginally helpful--those springs jump high!
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You could always do what my friend does with their winches... the box over the top... with a hole cut in the bottom, and then some pantyhose over the top of the box, and use the legs of the pantyhose as gloves to work on it with. Doesn't really seem to interfere with your dexterity from what I've seen...but does look quite silly.
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I hadn't thought of the panty hose idea, but it sounds like it could work, though it sure would look silly at the dock--might be justification to anchor out for an evening!
Can you also comment on how different a two speed self-tailing winch would be from the single speed that I have serviced on previous boats--are they much more complicated inside, and best left to someone who knows what they're doing in this department, or is it relatively straight-forward once I take the drum off?

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They're relatively straight forward. They are a bit more complicated, as they have more working pieces, mainly as they are needed for the second speed/gear ratio and the self-tailing device has some springs for the clutch that adjusts to different line sizes, but you should be able to handle it.

One good piece of advice—Get a big parts tray to keep things organized and use a digital camera to document how it came apart and should go back together.
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