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Jib sheet knot catching on stays...

Hello All! Got a 35 Morgan a few months back and been fixing her up. Got tired of working on her and decided to go sailing for a while. So, I'm sailing. One problem I've encountered is this, the jib sheet is tied to the jib with a bowline, At least 5/8" braid. My boat has a slightly forward stay, separate from the stays on the chain plates. The bowline catches on these stays, almost always and requires jerking and snatching to get it off. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin
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Re: Jib sheet knot catching on stays...

Keep the loop of the bowline a lot larger.
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Use a halyard knot.
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Re: Jib sheet knot catching on stays...

I find the amount of slack you allow in the released sheet plays a big part. If you keep too much tension, while tacking, you get hung up. Obviously, you don't want to just release it entirely, until the clew passes the mast, or she flogs and whips everything aboard. Getting in between is the trick for me. I don't release the working sheet, until the sail just begins to back wind. Therefore, there will be some effort and momentum to push her across too. Wait too long and you have excess tension again. Balance.
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Re: Jib sheet knot catching on stays...

Try a cow hitch, but you need one long line as opposed to two.
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Re: Jib sheet knot catching on stays...

What these guys said. I have a similar problem with my genoa hanging up on the shroud. Let the genoa back fill a bit before fully releasing what is now the windward sheet and let the knot blow past the shroud before pulling in the lee sheet. Don't pull the genoa across. Timing can get a bit tricky if you are sailing single handed but otherwise it works.
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Re: Jib sheet knot catching on stays...

Putting an appropriate length of PVC or ABS pipe over the offending shroud/stay helps a lot with this sort of problem. I find the black pipe less visually distracting

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Re: Jib sheet knot catching on stays...

Bete-Fleming Shroud Rollers

There used to be a manufacture of quite small OD (~1 inch dia.) 'plastic' 2-piece shroud rollers that were interlocking and required no 'fasteners' to keep them in place. Installed they didnt cover the turnbuckle nor rigging screw, etc.

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp...58503&id=74993

Without shroud rollers, etc., most times if you pull the jibsheet tighter before you release, there will be enough momentum and kinetic force to cause the damn knot to 'bump and jump' across a shroud.

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All good solutions but quite often the last word on smooth tacks is simply "timing". Maybe faster, maybe slower, but almost always a change in speed does the trick.
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Re: Jib sheet knot catching on stays...

Time to learn to splice.
We've spliced eyes in our jib sheets (7/8") and attached the eyes to the clew with some 1/4" dyneema lashing.
We had exactly the same problem (imagine a bowline in 7/8" line) and have not had any since we switched to this method.
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