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Emergency tiller

Just checked out the school boat.

It is an O'day 35 with wheel steering.

The emergency tiller is 30 inches long which means it will not overlap not only the wheel but the pedestal by several inches.

It seems to me that it is completely unusable.

Is this normal?

What is the point to include a safety item that will not work.

Do they really expect me to remove the pedestal. I couldn't even image what that would take while in a seaway.

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Re: Emergency tiller

Is it rigid? or hinged?.. if it can't be lifted to at least clear the binnacle then indeed it does sound useless unless one is expected to mount and use it at 90 deg from 'normal'...

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Re: Emergency tiller

I is wrapped up pretty well but I doubt it has a hinge.

Before I take it all apart I was hoping someone else had the same boat and knew how it worked, or didn't.

The 90 degree angle I thought of but don't see how it would work either.

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Re: Emergency tiller

It's good practice to test emergency equipment.
How could you know that the tiller fits the boat if you don't test it?
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Re: Emergency tiller

The emergency tiller that came with my boat seemed useless to me as well. I built a much better one after a trip to Lowe's!

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Re: Emergency tiller

We had to use the emergency tiller twice on our US 27... the skippers seat was very close to the pedestal, the whole tiller was maybe 24 inches long... lemme tell you, steering a heavy 27 with it, was difficult. There might be logic to it, but I strongly suggest someone test it.

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Re: Emergency tiller

It is not unusual to find that one must remove one's wheel to effectively use one's emergency tiller as is the case for us. Fortunately, the tiller- head fitting that drops down over the top of our rudder post is angled up-wards somewhat such that that the tiller, when inserted, angles above the Binnacle (but not the wheel). In such circumstances, it is wise to attach a dedicated Allen wrench or box wrench (depending upon what's needed to remove the wheel) to the tiller-head fitting so that one does not have to scramble for a tool in the midst of an emergency. In the case of our old boat--a 1976 Cal 2-29-I had the tiller made up such that the shaft was attached to the tiller-head athwart ship but then had a 90 bend so that it passed the Binnacle/Wheel well to port leaving enough room to swing the tiller without too much difficulty.

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Re: Emergency tiller

I was on a Hunter 34 that had that issue. The emergency tiller couldn't really be used because it hit the wheel. (That was really the least of the boat's problems though...)

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Re: Emergency tiller

This is the case on my boat as well. Some owners have said they mount the emergency tiller pointing to starboard (it's got a square connection with the rudder post) instead of forward. Would that work on your boat?

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Re: Emergency tiller

Anyone have any pictures of how they modified their emergency tillers to work better?
Any designs that allow for at least the steering pedestal to stay in place?

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