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"Interesting what some people get hot about. Yes, it is just a bilge pump and almost anyway will work. I have been known to cut corners in the past and do a quick repair in an inappropriate manner… and have almost always lived to regret it. I don’t know, maybe I’m just lazy, but I prefer to do a repair only once"

Dave, I wasn't suggesting that it's ok to to a half-assed job. I was only saying that it's kinda silly to get so worked up about how to wire a bilge pump.
I usually always use heat shrink butt connectors for an application like this. But I am sure that someone with a modicum of common sense could do a pretty good job with a little solder, shrink tubing and wire ties.
In the immortal words of Rodney King "can't we all just get along"
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Knot,

Just wanted to be sure! ;-) Actually I'm getting a big kick out of all of the passion in this one little topic.

I have and expect to continue to learn a lot on this forum, I contribute when I have something worthwhile. As a trainer in manufacturing and electronic processes, I am always mindful of those who are learning. I can’t help it, it’s just the way I am.

There are two types of fools...

One says this is old, and therefore good..

The other says this is new, and therefore better...
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So, after reading this thread and becoming quite amused, I need to ask the experts:

You mean twisting the wires together and bubble gum does not work? Whew, my boat is in trouble. I will say I followed ABC Standards (Allready Been Chewed). Since the twisting is not subject to the cracking of solder, the gum makes it watertight and it can be stuck anywhere, I fail to see how I could have gone wrong?

I did chew Bubblicious on the especially critical applications.
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Dad,

All I can say is !

There are two types of fools...

One says this is old, and therefore good..

The other says this is new, and therefore better...
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Jojo: You need to calm down. Have you ever hard of spontaneous human combustion? You might just be a candidate Dude.

By the way, I use both the crimping technique and the solder sleeves. I like the sleeves when I am running through the bilge, etc.
LOL, Naw Surf, It's just a Northern Ireland thing, we don't mince words at all over here, Visitors frequently think a fight is about to errupt when locals are just saying hello in colourfull lingo.

But back to the topic.

Safest suggestion in this senario has to be a small plastic Waterproof Junction box. You Life can depend on a bilge pump and its only ever as good as its wiring
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LOL, Naw Surf, It's just a Northern Ireland thing, we don't mince words at all over here, Visitors frequently think a fight is about to errupt when locals are just saying hello in colourfull lingo.
Nah, we just think you're an illiterate, ignorant and obnoxious A$$.

Unfortunately, I'd have to agree with you about waterproof junction boxes being a good thing, but they can also cause problems, if they are not properly sealed.

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You need to use the sugar-free gum, so as not to attract rats and other vermin to your electrical system, if you're using the ABC electrical standards. Bubblicious is only recommended for above waterline connections, BubbleYum is recommended for below the waterline and in the bilge connections. BTW, ABYC Code says that Red wires are DC positive leads.

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all this rukus about wiring a bilge pump, what if he had a real concern, like that red wire... wonder what that one is for?

---ISO standards... screw them, as long as you have a policy, and its written down, you can be ISO'd. (along with a fat-azz check.)

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ABYC? Whats that? some yank thing ? Some irrelevent Standards group that has little or nothing to do with 99% of the world?

In short Dog Your a loud mouthed Yank a$$hole who'd sooner pick a fight than say something useful on an INTERNATIONAL forum.
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'Guess it's a "Yank" thing after all, huh? (Even though I live South of the Mason-Dixon Line). Do they have Internet in Ireland yet? Oh... wait! That's an American Invention too!
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So, after reading this thread and becoming quite amused, I need to ask the experts:

You mean twisting the wires together and bubble gum does not work? Whew, my boat is in trouble. I will say I followed ABC Standards (Allready Been Chewed). Since the twisting is not subject to the cracking of solder, the gum makes it watertight and it can be stuck anywhere, I fail to see how I could have gone wrong?

I did chew Bubblicious on the especially critical applications.
The bubble gum is not really the best thing to use. Go with 5200 and/or duct tape I find the goo from the tape to hold important connections together very well, and if you flip some of the tape backwards it will hold the wire up high and dry. 5200 can be used in the same manner, but duct tape is a little cheaper.
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Nick,

It is quite obvious to me that you have never chewed Duct tape. It leaves a horrible taste in your mouth. As for the 5200, I am afraid the long term (or short term) conscequences of never being able to chew again make it a poor choice for the cruising couple.

Nope. Bubble gum is the way to go. "A little chew, put it on, sitck it, then your're through."
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