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That's one reason I applied for an SSB on my Ship's station radio license, so when I add one, I don't have to deal with any more paperwork.
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this is a copy of a notice posted on www.arrl.org from the FCC detailing the offences and times so they are pretty good about being able to track you plus this site will give you all the info you need to get your ham ticket which is a general class level (tech, general and extra are the three classes )
August 28, 2006

Cardinal Logistics Management Corporation DBA Cardinal Express
P. O. Box 1389
Concord, NC 28026

ATTN: Eric Bailey, Risk Manager

Subject: Warning Notice -- Unlicensed Radio Operation


Dear Mr. Bailey:

Information before the Commission indicates that your tractor #11065, DOT #191496, was the source of radio transmissions on the Ten Meter Amateur Radio band (28.085 MHz) on August 2, 2006 at 3:45 PM. The location was I-85 North between mile markers 6 & 7 northbound.

Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301, and will subject drivers to fine or imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of any non-certified radio transmitting equipment, in cooperation with the United States Attorney for your jurisdiction. Monetary forfeitures normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.

Please contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter.

CC: FCC South Central Region
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here is a site you can go to find out what is needed and where to get it
www.arrl.org the fines usally run from warning to a cash fine of 7500.00 to 10 thousand dollars so be aware
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"EBS...I know the FCC has been going to drop the code requirement but was under the impression that this has not actually happened yet. Did they finally get around to doing it" No. They did just get around to issuing an order based on other matters that were proposed about two years before the "no code" proposal, so if that lag means anything, they will delay issuing the rule change for another 1-1/2 to 2 years. The comment periods, etc. are long past, the FCC simply seems unable to pass rulings in a timely manner.

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"The restriction on Ham Radio and its limitation to non-commercial traffic is a big problem for many sailors, as they may need to order parts and such over e-mail. " That has changed and the FCC has repeatedly confirmed the change. They actually use the "pizza" example to illustrate this. If you are a ham radio operator and you want to order a pizza for lunch over your radio--you may expressly do so. For you, the subject is LUNCH not COMMERCIAL USE making profits. However, if you OWN THE PIZZARIA, these orders are commercial in nature, so you may not use ham radio to TAKE your orders.
Hams may order parts, etc., without restriction as long as the transaction is not a part of their BUSINESS communications.

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"enforcement is usually pretty good" Reports vary. Simply owning a radio of any kind would not trigger enforcement action, licenses are required to transmit--but not to receive. Neither are they required for emergency transmissions, so you could conceivably purchase and install a marine SSB for emergency use only--and that would be legal without a license. Still, it IS best not to tweak the dragon's tail.
You will note that the enforcement action which you quoted was NOT an action because of ownership of an SSB transmitter at all. It was one of many actions taken against a TRUCK DRIVER or truck line, because the owner had ILLEGALLY OPERATED a transmitter, on a HAM RADIO frequency for which any operation of that transmitter is illegal without a ham license, as a minimum. There's been a major problem with truckers buying and using illegally imported/modified CB radios as unlicensed ham radios for decades. This has nothing to do with marine SSB, or with simple ownership of the radio.
These are violations for unlicense and improper *operation* of equipment. The FCC and the USCG in general do not pay attention to radio transmissions made on the high seas--unless something is done to arouse their interest.
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TWO corrections

RE: license required for installers - where did that come from? There are no such requirements; anyone can install a SSB radio , and

RE: Use of Ham SSB for commercial purposes - to clarify, the only limitation is the conduct of business for profit. You can order parts, order pizza and calll you office, your lawyer, your doctor or anyone else.
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I know for a fact that the code requirement in Canada has been dropped, my wife had her licence upgraded and as it is an international agreement I would say that the code requirement has been dropped throughout the world, but by all means check with the FCC.
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code requirements vary by country

The ITU can make policy but it is up to individual agencies in each country to establish regulatory requirements. In Canada, Australia and elsewhere, a Foundation license has been established which provides limited priviledges without a code requirement. This is not to say the code requirement has been abolished universally in these countries - it has been eliminated specifically for the Foundation license.

In the US, the code requirement still exists for HF license priviledges (and hopefully will remain as such...)

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Large parts of the world dropped the code requirement over the past several years. The ITU, which is the world "keeper" for telecom standards and agreements, decided Morse was no longer relevant some years ago and the US, as sadly befits a falling empire, has simply been one of the last "free" nations to bother complying with that.
But try to bring a ham radio into China without pre-registering it and getting advance permission, and you may be arrested for espionage. Licensed or not.
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"In the US, the code requirement still exists for HF license priviledges (and hopefully will remain as such...)"
Old hams are their own worst enemies. Make Code a requirement to use the frequencies reserved for code, but it accomplished nothing else. Most hams are unaware that the only reason they were required to learn code was not the ITU--but to prepare a trained pool of military radio operators for draft.
Now that the military has effectively dropped code use (the Signalman rating has been dropped, morse is taught mainly to *cryptographers* and Annapolis plebes as part of their induction hazing) as unsecure and a security threat (it can be RDFed too easily) the reason for hams knowing code has gone away.
Try to keep that requirement, and you'll kill all the other areas where it has no relevance, you'll kill ham radio, and "your" bands will be sold to commercial users. CW simply has no relevance to *most* ham purposes today, and the only relevance it has is on the CW bands. There are 6000 languages spoken on this planet today, CW is spoken by a tiny number of people. Portuguese, Cantonese, Mandarin, Spanish...these are useful forms of communication today. Any one of them would make more sense for hams than Morse, in today's world.
No one is taking away your CW or QRP spaces, you just have to share the sandbox with other folks, who want to play other games. Like using SkyFi for disaster communications, because the professional responders following ICS just don't want to know how fast you can send CW. They're sending broadband instead.
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The code requirement for HF licenses is a silly arciac requirement. The USG no longer requires it for it's members as the use of the Morse Code is about as useful as an astrolab. The limit that is imposed on the Canadian licence is only the wattage that can be used not the radio frequency. All SSB's are within the wattage allowed by the basic licence. Before I would follow k1vsk's advice I would check with the FCC, I can't believe the FCC is so far behind the rest of the world. If you can't get a US ham licence then apply for a Canadian one.

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