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Adding a self tailer?

Aloha, new here. Ive been lurking for a while now thou. We just purchased out first wind powered boat and I have many questions. This one is easy. Is there a way to upgrade an existing winch to a self tailer? That is an add on tailer without changing the winch?
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You used to be able to get a grooved rubber ring that was meant to snap onto the top of a standard winch that would act sort of like a self tailing setup. I don't think they worked as well as the real deal, as they have no means of peeling off the line once it's been around the jaws that grip the line.

Could be a cheap temporary tryout, though, and if nothing else might eliminate the need for a cleat in that area.

It may be possible to buy the tailing topworks from someone like Lewmar, but I've not seen them.
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You can try winchers ( http://www.foghmarine.com/2006Catalo...20hi%20res.pdf see bottom of page). I had them on a race boat once. They did sort of work, but didn't rely on them enough to comment on how reliable they are.

The better solution is to find some genuine Lewmar ST winches http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...allpartial/0/0 , my current boat has these and they are excellent. Keep an eye on Ebay, you can always see whatever you have in return...
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You'll get opinions pro and con about self tailers. Personally, I don't like them at all for racing, but wouldn't do without them for cruising, and especially for sailing short-handed. IMHO, when racing, they make it a little difficult to strip the sheets off the winches quickly when they're under load. I might have a different opinion if I were racing a bigger boat (over about 50 feet)

I have used "Winchers" a few times, and, for cruising or sailing short-handed, they seem to work almost as well as self-tailers.
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Thanks guys, thats what I was looking for.
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If you go the winchers route...don't trust them to hold the line...they don't grip the line as well as an actual self-tailing winch does, and if you don't cleat the line off, under a heavy load, they can slip or let the line go completely.
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Thanks again! Self tailers will be added but as with any new boat there is a long list of changes to be made so Im pinching pennies where I can.
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Hi Wildcard!
Try:

www.winchmate.com

These will only work if you have Barlow winches though.
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