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Re: Low buck bow thruster??

one of the cast of characters around here did exactly this, on his 30' Doral Prestancia. I'll get some pics tomorrow.
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Re: Low buck bow thruster??

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Do you always walk in with guns blazing? I've seen some angry people in my life and have seen many thousands of "opening" letters in places like this forum Yours is pretty awful.

BTW, Jeanneau (and others) already have your system out there for those that can afford it. Usually that is people who own 50ft boats.

So even my idea of a a 6 nozzle joy stick system with a jet pump is moot.
I have to disagree. I felt that luhtag made very reasonable points and that many of the snappy replies to the original post were inappropriate.

Using a trolling motor as a bow thruster is something I have thought about myself (independently of this thread which I was not aware of) and I think there is potential in it. It's not a slam dunk (otherwise everybody would have one) but I see no harm in discussing the problems with this approach, and how to potentially overcome them. I thought that is what Sailnet is about.

For those that disagree, make your point politely. Telling us about your superior docking skills or suggesting marriage counseling is not a useful contribution.
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Re: Low buck bow thruster??

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All the ***** responses on this thread are typical. I doubt these folks would have the stuff to speak openly the same way at a bar. The vision of a lying prostitute getting pimp-smacked comes to mind.
Wow! I don't think I have ever read an angrier, more combative, or more derogatory, first post in the nearly thirty years I've been participating in online forums (yes, going clear back to the days of usenet).
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Re: Low buck bow thruster??

You need one of these puppies mounted on a swivel on your bow.

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I'm still looking for the drop down bow thruster, here's a low buck stern thruster I found though:

Stern Thruster - Great Lakes Fisherman
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Re: Low buck bow thruster??

irmedic, thanks for that. Attaching to the stern seems to be easier than the bow. I wonder if, at the very least, a stern thruster could help compensate for prop walk.
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That is one way to revive a dead thread...insult people

That'll get you friends
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Re: Low buck bow thruster??

Personally, I'm intrigued by the idea. However, this option:
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They can also be run by IR remote saving the extra wiring.
...would be a bad one because IR is easily swamped out by the sun. Maybe he meant a RF remote which would be a great addition.
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Wow! I don't think I have ever read an angrier, more combative, or more derogatory, first post in the nearly thirty years I've been participating in online forums (yes, going clear back to the days of usenet).
And the only posts in 10 years signed up!

I have less than 50 in 5 years,but wow!

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I know it's an old thread but I couldn't resist.

The low buck bow thruster is a great idea. All the ***** responses on this thread are typical. I doubt these folks would have the stuff to speak openly the same way at a bar. The vision of a lying prostitute getting pimp-smacked comes to mind.

I know everyone on this forum is the best boat handler ever created by God. Even God could not dock a boat better. In fact I'm sure all of you could dock an 80 footer under sail in a hurricane from the v-berth using nothing but your telekinetic powers while you make love to one of your super model concubines.

The idea of using a trolling motor as an occasional bow thruster has a lot of merit. These motors can produce a 100 pounds of thrust which is plenty to assist the bow of any 50 footer. I've helped dock an 80 footer using a dinghy with a 20 lb. thrust Minn Kota and it did just fine. A little slow but it was better than nothing. So the whole not strong enough argument is simply incorrect. And I would never let some dock kid or marina guy push on my boat with a skiff.

My rag boat is 50 feet and has a 65 hp auxiliary. Go ahead with the snippy comments, it is what it is. Reliable and very efficient. But it's not a Titan when maneuvering in confined quarters with a running current and high winds in an unfamiliar marina. A quick attach trolling motor on the bow would make things much more relaxed. All it would have to do is hold the bow. Not spin the boat.

Now before any of you experts tell me how easily it would be for you to dock your boat in a class 3 rapid during a tornado, let me say that I've never had an incident docking my boat. With the pulpit, anchors, and davits, I'm looking at about 57ft overall. It can obviously be done, but what harm is there in having an effective and cheap alternative to cutting a huge hole in your boat? Much of my sailing is 600 plus miles offshore. The last thing anyone needs is another hole in their hull especially at the cost of $9000 grand or more. I can afford it, but I have my principles. And my last concern is impressing the meathead in the slip next to me. I've got nothing to prove.

Over the years I've had to sail some boats in and out of marinas. I've come in and backed my boat into a slip entirely under sail, single handed. I've raced competitively since I was 7. I hold an unlimited Masters license, unlimited towing license, first class pilotage, every unlicensed deck endorsement the federal government has, and I've been Captain of a 580 foot petroleum tanker for over 15 years. I've literally spent more of my life on water than on land and I've got millions of miles under the keel, not thousands. Oh yeah, I've also docked a boat in a hurricane, multiple times.

Point being, who cares about your silly skills. The Op was asking a simple question about his idea. I stumbled upon this post because I was looking for a similar solution. For around a thousand bucks, I can quickly attach a trolling motor near the bow to help back into a foreign slip. What could be more relaxing. I'd rather keep a hand free for my beer or my super model's rear than have to back and fill like a maniac. Done that.

The Kota wouldn't have to extend off the stem as an eye sore. It could simply be attached farther aft, along side, as long as the thrust was deeper than the hull. A remote foot pedal from the cockpit would suffice as a control, and when your boat is all fast, disconnect the whole thing and chuck it in a locker. Easy money. The setup need not be an ugly behemoth. If the paint matched the hull it'd hardly be noticeable.

If I can't find a suitable option for this idea then I'll be talking to an engineer. I bet West Marine would be interested in my marketing ideas.
For your second post in 10 years - I'd say that was very well stated my good man. Carry on!
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