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Rolling and tipping? Sorry for my ignorance but this is my first plastic boat. Not to hijack but I was told to paint rather than awlgrip?
what do you mean paint rather than awlgrip? Awlgrip is paint.
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It was my understanding that awlgrip is some what more complicated to use? I was looking at options at westmarine. Sorry, the names elude me at the moment.
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Everything out there could be considered hard to use. I had painted 2 jets skis and a golf cart before this and did our 34' boat. Awlgrip can be either sprayed or rolled and tipped, it is a very workable product, and the best product for the job.
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For painting you basically have 2 options a two part epoxy like Awlgrip or a single part like Interlux Brightside or Petite Esypox sp?. The 2 part is more durable and as far as I know always sprayed on.
You can get a pretty decent finsh by rolling and tipping. That is a roller immediately followed by soneone good with a brush to smooth out the orange peel that a roller leaves. Go with a ligth colour maybe an off white and it can look pretty good for a few years. Still needs lots of prep work.

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OK, thanks! Is it to much to ask about the details of the prep work here?
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Wildcard... Awlgrip and Imron are the 2 leading 2 part paints for boats. They both provide a very high qaulity, high gloss finish that will last for years without clouding or fading if taken care of. NOTHING else you can buy will do that. It is QUITE complicated and takes a lot of time and effort to do it and spraying does work better than rolling and tipping but rolling and tipping DOES work. (Rolling and tipping is using a paint roller to spread the paint on the hull surface then using a fine bristle brush to "tip" out the paint and achieve a smooth finish.) Single part paints will look good for a year or two but won't last. It all depends on what you want to spend and what you expect from the final job.

Oh yeah...for more details see the current thread with the Columbia34 being painted.
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Thanks again for all the info! We are discussing our options.
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Wildcard... prep work is not bad works, its not hard labor like digging a ditch, but i promise you that you will find out just how big your boat is when you have to sand the whole thing several times sanding. Here is a good site of a guy named Tim who is very good a restoring old boats and here is his project. he has made a great website with lots of detail about how to a DIY can do a project like this. He did this boat in awlgirp with the roll and tip method.

http://www.triton381.com/projects/re.../hullhome.html

Check it out....
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You boat is about the size of mine.

How many hours do you estimate it took you to do the prep work?

And, how much of the old gel coat did you sand off?

I'm trying to figure out how much my time is worth compared with how much the yards charge. I don't think my time is worth 90 dollars an hour. For what they charge I could have my house painted all around twice with two coats! and prepped! and still have some money left over!

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For the rest of the forum posts I thank you because I am getting a feel of what is involved. And thanks for the link to triton. I am aware that if they don't do the prep work they won't warranty it. I think that a big part of that money they charge is the guarantee. I don't need a perfect job and I don't need a guarantee. I hate guarantees. You usually have to fight too much and if nothing happens your out the money. I'd rather just pay half the price to start with and then take the chance and pay again. In the long run I've save a lot of money with that attitude. A year ago I bought a BMW for 10K less than than the dealer wanted for a used one and I've had not problems. I figure the 10K savings is my insurance. The only thin I missed out on was the free cappucino at the dealer!
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