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The Admiral and I have put up with the 1987 cushions and covers on my O'day 35 about as long as we are going to do so. I hope that this year I can finally do something about it.

Here is what they looked like when I bought the boat in 2010;




Right now the boat is in Rhode Island, and I am in Florida, so these are the best pics that I can provide.

While they weren't terrible, they weren't good, and their condition hasn't improved since. Several of the "buttons" have since lost their cloth caps, and several of the "buttons" are missing entirely. I hate the "buttons"...

When I had my new dodger and bimini built, I asked the canvas shop to give me a price for all new cushions and foam. There are 16 total cushions, including the 6 backrests. The quote that I received was $10K Well, like my chances of winning the lottery, that ain't ever happening.

So my thought is that because the backrests are in excellent condition, all that I need to replace is the bottoms. The challenge is that I would need a close enough match for the material and pattern. I have combed the Sunbrella site for several years in search of a match to no avail.

I received another quote, and asked if the guy could match the material. My conversation with him, and his lack of understanding led me to believe that he could not. This surprised me because I have seen this exact same material and pattern on '80s vintage Catalinas (a 30 and 34), Pearson (33, and 36) O'day (a 34 and 35), and an Ericsson (35) sailboats.

Here is another O'day 35 with the same material;


I was on a 2004 Catalina 40, and really liked the cushions, so I checked the label. I laughed out loud when I saw this;


I liked that the cushion had a zipper around the bottom (not the back) and that the bottom was a mesh material that seemed like water would be able to escape. I also liked that there were no "buttons".

Can anyone here help me find a similar material?
Can anyone here help me find a cushion maker that won't charge me an appendage and an organ?


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Re: Cushions & Fabric?

I also have that fabric on my O'Day 322. In fact this is the third boat I have had which had that fabric. I like it, it wears like iron, is dark blue and shows no stains. I don't know what it is made out of but it is bullet proof. I imagine it was automobile upholstery fabric of the time. My boat cushions look virtually new with that fabric after 28 years. (yours from 2010 look pretty darn good too!) Compare this fabric to the horrible brown plaids of just a few years earlier in the O'Day and Hunter lines. Yuck.

I have looked high and low on automotive upholstery sites, and have not found a similar match yet.

I did sew my own cushions for my Catalina 22, first project, and they came out quite well. I ordered 20+ yards of an upholstery fabric from Jo-Ann fabric store on sale (they have several sales per year up to 50% off). I have a SailRite clone walking foot machine, which sews through heavier fabrics like butter.

The buttons are not an entirely aesthetic thing only..... They serve a purpose as well. If you have cushions with no buttons, have you ever noticed after a year or two the edges start rolling around the cushion? You then have to take the time to coax the fabric back around so the edges match the corners of the foam cushion again. Notice in your cushions after 30 years, your seams are nice and square with the corners and edges of the foam. That is the buttons at work. They prevent fabric creep.

Try making a couple throw pillows with a sewing machine and you may be surprised that you have the skills to do your own cushions. Be sure to watch some YouTube folks advice on sewing cushions. (Project Atticus is a good start, cute young cruising couple - they, and they do all their own work on refurbishing their old boat).

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I also have that fabric on my O'Day 322. In fact this is the third boat I have had which had that fabric. I like it, it wears like iron, is dark blue and shows no stains. I don't know what it is made out of but it is bullet proof. I imagine it was automobile upholstery fabric of the time. My boat cushions look virtually new with that fabric after 28 years. (yours from 2010 look pretty darn good too!) Compare this fabric to the horrible brown plaids of just a few years earlier in the O'Day and Hunter lines. Yuck.

I have looked high and low on automotive upholstery sites, and have not found a similar match yet.

I did sew my own cushions for my Catalina 22, first project, and they came out quite well. I ordered 20+ yards of an upholstery fabric from Jo-Ann fabric store on sale (they have several sales per year up to 50% off). I have a SailRite clone walking foot machine, which sews through heavier fabrics like butter.

The buttons are not an entirely aesthetic thing only..... They serve a purpose as well. If you have cushions with no buttons, have you ever noticed after a year or two the edges start rolling around the cushion? You then have to take the time to coax the fabric back around so the edges match the corners of the foam cushion again. Notice in your cushions after 30 years, your seams are nice and square with the corners and edges of the foam. That is the buttons at work. They prevent fabric creep.

Try making a couple throw pillows with a sewing machine and you may be surprised that you have the skills to do your own cushions. Be sure to watch some YouTube folks advice on sewing cushions. (Project Atticus is a good start, cute young cruising couple - they, and they do all their own work on refurbishing their old boat).

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I totally agree with AndreNJ. My wife redid our 24 coushions last year . One at a time. That way we missed no sailing time. Each one a different shape . We too waited and got some good fabric at Jo Ann's. Replaced some of the foam too.

The price quoted at 10k was very high, but expect it to run at least 3-4K.

The buttons are a necessary factor in keeping the fabric tight. We covered them with the leftover coushions material.
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Covering those damned buttons was the hardest part about reupholstering cushions. I made mine from scratch in one of the vans I used to own, and it took me two weeks to complete 6 large cushions covered with burgundy velvet upholstery purchased from Jo Ann's Fabrics in Bel Air. I don't remember the cost of the material back then, but I think it was about $200 at the time. It wore like iron and lasted 7 years until I sold the van. If I recall, I purchased the material on sale, and Jo Ann's Fabrics has lots of sales on fabrics during the year.

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Gary my friend,

My wife found the work through . Was simple enough that I made all 74 of our covered buttons while watch the TV. Hardest part was cutting the tiny circles of fabric

We actually have a snap and geometry maker for the canvas which made it go fast

All told took me 1.5 hours to make the 74 buttons.






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I found an old Plaff machine that does industrial/heavy fabrics for pretty cheap, although I've not taken it to town yet.

If you don't want to dedicate the time to doing the fabrication yourself, I suggest buying all of the materials - everything needed with foam, etc - and handing it to a nice little old lady who does sewing classes or alterations.

The materials will be your biggest expense.

The skill of home sewing, along with knitting, is being lost through the generations. Those nice little old ladies love their craft.

You can get good leads at the fabric stores.
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While everyone has talked in general, I'll mention more specific of what I got.

While I haven't sewn my replacement cushions, yet, I did already get some fabric. I was looking into the different fabrics on the Sailrite site, like the interior Sunbrella fabrics. I saw a blog post from another boater who did their cushions and I looked into what they used. Like others have mentioned, I also got my fabric from Jo-Ann Fabrics and went with Crypton fabrics. They have a lot of samples in the store, but I originally got some samples from online and chose what I thought was the softest.

Crypton is nice because you can apparently make a lot of mess on it and it'll still clean up. I think it has been used in the medical field for bedding material for being able to clean it up and they now sell for home use and pet bedding.

I saw on one of the Sailrite videos that they used a mesh material on the bottom of some cushions to allow it to breathe and while I got enough fabric to cover new cushions, I may go with that mesh as well.

Here's the blog I first saw Crypton. https://svwrightaway.com/2014/10/01/crypton/
and their cushions turned out pretty nice. https://svwrightaway.com/2014/11/14/...y-sewing-room/

You can also find videos of other people testing Crypton.

Just wanted to share what I'm going with.
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I found an old Plaff machine that does industrial/heavy fabrics for pretty cheap, although I've not taken it to town yet.

If you don't want to dedicate the time to doing the fabrication yourself, I suggest buying all of the materials - everything needed with foam, etc - and handing it to a nice little old lady who does sewing classes or alterations.

The materials will be your biggest expense.

The skill of home sewing, along with knitting, is being lost through the generations. Those nice little old ladies love their craft.

You can get good leads at the fabric stores.
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You calling my wife an old lady....lol. I'd better not catch you winking at her🤒🤒

Many of my male friends have learned to sew and gotten Sailrite or similar machine
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While everyone has talked in general, I'll mention more specific of what I got.

While I haven't sewn my replacement cushions, yet, I did already get some fabric. I was looking into the different fabrics on the Sailrite site, like the interior Sunbrella fabrics. I saw a blog post from another boater who did their cushions and I looked into what they used. Like others have mentioned, I also got my fabric from Jo-Ann Fabrics and went with Crypton fabrics. They have a lot of samples in the store, but I originally got some samples from online and chose what I thought was the softest.

Crypton is nice because you can apparently make a lot of mess on it and it'll still clean up. I think it has been used in the medical field for bedding material for being able to clean it up and they now sell for home use and pet bedding.

I saw on one of the Sailrite videos that they used a mesh material on the bottom of some cushions to allow it to breathe and while I got enough fabric to cover new cushions, I may go with that mesh as well.

Here's the blog I first saw Crypton. https://svwrightaway.com/2014/10/01/crypton/
and their cushions turned out pretty nice. https://svwrightaway.com/2014/11/14/...y-sewing-room/

You can also find videos of other people testing Crypton.

Just wanted to share what I'm going with.
Good material the crypton. Important to get some that can breath for coolness and won't trap moisture aka mildew sponge.

We scotch gaurded ever cushion twice also to help with any cleAnup. We also put a strip of the screen g on the bottoms.


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Also wanted to point out that out of all the samples I got for the different Crypton types they have, I went with Bella Ibiza type. Ibiza is a light blue color. While some of the fabrics felt soft when swiping a hand one way, it felt rough when going the other way as the fibers wanted to stand up.... the Bella series felt soft no matter which way you rub the fabric. Thought that would be important to consider when trying to sleep and moving around in a berth.

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