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Anchor Choice?

We are making our final choices on equipment for our new IP440. I doing the selection of our anchors the choice seems to be a moving target with the tests being done this year by both PS (3 tests) and Sail Mag plus reading everthing else I can get my hands on ... I am coming to the conclusion that new designs have changed the choices. At this point I am Here (size appropriiate) : Hydro-bubble - Primary, Spade - 2nd, Fortress (back up)

This is such a change from when I started looking 2+ years ago. At that time it might have been: CRQ, Danforth, and Bruce.

I need your help.

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You're missing the best one - Manson Supreme. This is now my primary with a Bruce as secondary. Sold the plow.
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Barb -

This thread is likely to be highly opinionated. I'd recommend, first, searching the archives. There has been a lot of discussion about anchor types. Practical Sailor recently said the hydro-bubble was good. I personally like the Delta and have never had an issue with it, although I really want to get some feedback from someone on the new XYZ.

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I've been looking at the Rocna anchor out of new zealand. Interesting video of the testing


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I'd go with either a Spade, Rocna, or Manson Supreme for your primary anchor, and size it such that it can hold you in even the worst condtions with little trouble. They're all fairly comparable in terms of construction and holding power.

The hydro bubble strikes me as a bit gimmicky, and the "bubble" part will lead to the anchor being less dense, and likely to not set as well IMHO. Also, how damage resistant is the bubble. My guess is that it isn't all that durable...and if the design of the anchor is such that the bubble is a critical element, damaging it is a problem...and if the anchor doesn't require it...the metal the mount for the bubble takes up could be better used elsewhere.

A Danforth of some sort is a good kedge or secondary anchor, provided it is heavy enough. I prefer the non-high tensile strength versions of the Danforths.

I'd avoid any stainless steel anchors, as they are not really suitable on a cruising boat, especially if you're going to be spending any significant amount of time on the hook. Stainless steel buried in mud is likely to corrode rather quickly, especially in the tropics. Aluminum anchors are also problematic and subject to corrosion as well. Galvanized steel is still the best material for an anchor or ground tackle gear.

Having a hydrobubble as a primary and a spade as a secondary strikes me as a bit less than useful, given that they're both rather difficult to stow and unless your boat is equipped with a dual bow roller setup, it would make more sense to have a secondary that stores compactly, like a Danforth.

BTW, just for full disclosure, the primary on my boat is a Rocna.
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Nothing like anchor wars!!! By the way, that Manson Supreme can work better than a stake through the heart. Look at the tip!
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my 35 pound CQR has held under all conditions.
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I'm with you Cam, soon as I saw it I said to myself "Oh no, here we go agian."

Foothill, no fault of your own, But as you can tell this has been discussed and debated many times over.

You'll find more opinions on this topic than any other on the forums.
And none that agree!

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But it is so fun to talk about the different anchors... I'm just waiting for Alain and Craig to come into the dicussion...
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