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1970Columbia34 01-24-2007 09:54 PM

Z-Spar Flagship Varnish and Ultimate Cabin Sole
 
Does anyone have any experince with Z-Spar Flagship Varnish. We have a teak toe rail and a few hatches. We also plan to use the Ultimate Cabin Sole suggest to me for the cockpit seats and floor, and the inside cabin floor, I guess its a gloss stlye looking varnish with a non-slip finish. I know I am opening up a can of work with this post but I have to ask.

http://www.ultimatesole.com/Scripts/...p?idproduct=25

Scott

camaraderie 01-24-2007 10:25 PM

Yeah Scott...works great but ONLY use a foam brush and NO sanding between coats or you will hacve a mess!! It will turn out fantastic if you just lay on a few coats slowly to keep the bubbles out.
After three years, I am about to do my floors again in the spring but I think it is awesome stuff!

1970Columbia34 01-25-2007 06:59 AM

Are you replying about the z-spar or the ultimate cabin sole? and do you have it on a interior or exterior surface? should we skip the z-spar and use the ultimate sole product on all exterior teak? thanks

NOLAsailing 01-25-2007 09:37 AM

Do not use the Ultimate Sole on the exterior teak. It is not formulated for long lasting UV resistance. It's great inside, but it is not what you're looking for on the exterior.

If you asked that out of a relucatance to sand between coats, you may want to consider Epiphanes Wood Finish Gloss. It is very easy to apply and does not require sanding between coats. Although for the best finish you should lightly sand the last couple of coats.

Z-Spar is good varnish - you'll need to sand between coats of course.

Don't forget to thin your varnish first. In case you find it helpful, here is a link to how I varnished some of the exterior wood on my Triton: http://www.triton218.com/Projects/Varnishing.html. It was my first go at varnishing such a large quantity of wood, so it makes a decent beginners primer on varnshing.

1970Columbia34 01-25-2007 09:51 AM

What about the Ultimate Bright work finish, for the coclpit floors and seats.
http://216.204.68.29/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=40 says its still has good footing, and it a exterior finish anyone ever used it?

svsirius 01-25-2007 10:11 AM

Ultimate Sole works great... no input on their bright work finish I use Epaphanes. Z Spar is also good I just prefer the look of the Epaphanes.

1970Columbia34 01-25-2007 10:13 AM

we just need something for the cockpit floor that will not be super slippery when wet.

camaraderie 01-25-2007 12:17 PM

Ultimate Sole is for down below and it works fantastic. They now have a UV stabilized version for exterior use:
"Ultimate Brightwork is our new exterior version of our High Gloss Finish. Formulated with minimal UV protection, it is intended for use in pilot houses or entrance ways that receive some sun. In direct sunlight exposure, do plan on re-coating at least once a season. The characteristics of this finish are intended to mimic the performance of the Ultimate Sole as far as footing and coloring. It will flow easily and you can easily do two coats in one day without sanding between coats. As clear in color and scale as our Ultimate Sole finish. Ships in an "F-Style" quart can with twist off top. Pour what you need in a paint pot and re-seal the can for longer shelf life."

Epiphanes is gonna be real slippery on a cockpit floor. I'd go with the UV ultimate and plan on re-doing it annually. Exactly what kind of cockpit sole do you have? Is it a teak grid or traditional planking. If a teak grid...I would also consider using 2 coats of Cetol + multiple coats of Cetol gloss as it will last longer and be easier to touch up than the Ultimate or Epiphanes.

1970Columbia34 01-25-2007 01:45 PM

will cetol be slippery when wet?

svsirius 01-25-2007 02:37 PM

Personnaly I would not varnish the cockpit floor or seats. We have a teak cockpit and natural is good. You get the most non skid from the teak and keeping it up is no big deal. Just to clarify.. Ultimate sole was used on the cabin sole, we used the epaphanes for brightwork above decks and inside the cabin on the bulkheads etc. again brightwork stuff.


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