effectiveness of solar & wind

[sailingdog]

Slacker....

Originally Posted by denby

20 days till launch. How much more trouble can I cause.

[denby]

Originally Posted by wind_magic

For reasons not worth going into here, I have had to spend a lot of time recently studying genetics, DNA, how cells work, etc. It is very complicated, and I am amazed at the variety of things that have to happen for cells to make proteins, how base pairs form DNA, how DNA is replicated, how tRNA moves amino acids around and delivers them to ribosomes, how polypeptides get folded and bent into usable proteins, etc. Did you know that DNA is copied to RNA, shuttled out of the nucleus, and then it is manipulated until it actually ends up as polypeptides that are bent into useful shapes like three dimensional puzzles ? And that those shapes sometimes come together to form things like hemoglobin that carries oxygen ? Unreal. Cells even have special proteins that come along and fix problems in our DNA as it is used to make RNA and when it is replicated, even special proteins to take the tension out of the double helix when it is unwound to make copies, it is simply incredible all of the things that go into making a cell work, into making our bodies work, there's no way to express how unbelievable it all is, how it all manages to work together. Did you know that our cells are powered by a little power plant called mitochondrial DNA that scientists suspect used to actually be a separate life form like a bacteria that somehow ended up inside of human cells, that our cells actually contain these little special DNA sequences that are symbiotic with our human DNA ? And that trees have a third set of DNA called chloroplast DNA that does photosynthesis ? How did all of this first start out, it looks like an engineering project gone crazy, it is so complex you can hardly imagine it. And to think, cells are replicating right now in your body, moving amino acids around, turning sugars into usable fuel, making hormones to send messages around in our bodies, all this activity, ceaseless, so much going on we may never fully appreciate the intricacies of it all ...

The most amazing thing about all of these incredible processes and systems, all of the intricate workings that are going on inside of us is that all of these forces can combine together and work in harmony to allow us to ... post to the solar and wind thread.

Windy,

That is very good, Sway would be proud.

[sailingdog]

Did Sway study writing from Faulkner??

[camaraderie]

Tolstoy!

[liquidroof]

I also use 4 - 4D's plus an alternate starter battery totally seperated from any of these systems as a backup/emergency starter. I also have a generator and use a Prosine Inverter/Charger 2.0 (I really like it).

I agree with Cam's point about a good MS charge.

[wind_magic]

It is summer so I have a little fan that is powered from the battery bank, but what is funny is that whenever a cloud goes over the solar panels the fan slows down just a little bit, and then when the clouds goes away the fan speeds back up again. So I can close my eyes and listen to the clouds passing over.

Solar and wind is very effective. I am so glad that we have a solar and wind thread to post to and talk about all of the exciting solar and wind topics which deserve our attention. It is a happy thread.

[Freesail99]

Originally Posted by wind_magic

It is summer so I have a little fan that is powered from the battery bank, but was is funny is that whenever a cloud goes over the solar panels the fan slows down just a little bit, and then when the clouds goes away the fan speeds back up again. So I can close my eyes and listen to the clouds passing over.

Solar and wind is very effective. I am so glad that we have a solar and wind thread to post to and talk about all of the exciting solar and wind topics which deserve our attention. It is a happy thread.

Now you understand why there are tree huggers. I mean didn't you feel like one with nature?

[denby]

Windy,

Sway loves you.

[tjaldur]

Alas, my copy of Douglas Hofstadter's book: "Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid", is at the bottom of the ocean, somewhere in the Bay of Biscay, as I would need it know for some quotations from this book to fully appreciate what really is taking place in this thread. Now I must quote from my memory, which is not quite the same, but so be it.

This thread is but another instance of the famous paradox by Epimenides: "All Cretans are Liars". Since Epimenides himself was a Cretan, this phrase lacks a decision procedure. If it is true that "All Cretans are liars" then it is false. It can not be decided, because the sentence references itself. Which has haunted mathematics and computer science ever since under the name of the: "Undecidability-problem".

Since Big-Bang or possibly the last not so Big Bang in a chain of several not so Big Bangs, hydrogen-plasma has been asking itself: "What Am I Doing here?" In its effort to answer this question, hydrogen-plasma has recursively transformed itself into, among other things, DNA, as wind-magic so cleverly show us. So that this question can be pondered upon, by those instances of DNA, that are best fit to ponder upon it, namely those who most frequently ask themselves: "Why am I doing this?".

So, once a recursive function is found, that gives a decision procedure for: "why a man sails a boat from a harbour with the aim of reaching the harbour he left", then a procedure for why hydrogen-plasma is there and necessarily must end up with a thread like this, will also be found.

[AdamLein]

tjaldur you lost me in there... I will have to ponder your post for a while until I understand it.

However, while I agree that supposing "All Cretans are liars" to be true leads to a contradiction, it cannot likewise be claimed that supposing the same statement to be false also leads to a contradiction. If the statement is false, it merely implies that there are some Cretans who are not liars, and that Epimenides is not fortunate to count himself among their number.

p.s. I would look up the reference for you, but it would appear that my copy of GEB has also gone missing. Coincidence?