effectiveness of solar & wind

[xort]

hang out in the 'hood and you'll hear the N word slung around by N to N. So a particular perjorative can be the opposite depending on the user.

[camaraderie]

You already established numerous time that you live in a box, and are on this board to simply argue with people, which is fine with me, so post away, the links are meaningless to me.

Right...fire away Joe...Actually I asked if you WANTED the link because I didn't know if you KNEW the "other" meaning of the words. This link was NOT posted or referenced by me so as to avoid any embarassment to you.
Now that you have said you already know the other meaning...I have no need to post the link. So much for trying to be civil.

As to C Paul's credentials... I agree that they are irrelevant to the discussion but ABYC and Sam's certification is a lot more meaningful to understanding boat systems than Scuba certification wouldn't you agree?

[cardiacpaul]

as an attorney that I had disbarred said... the best offense is to make attack, and never respond to the questions.

A) my website isn't "free" I pay for it as I do my toll free telephone number.
I'll be more than happy to provide you with my bona fides if you'll tell me which boat you'd like surveyed.

I did not personally attack you, but i will wait for the photos and empirical data.

thank you for playing.

[conchyjoe]

Originally Posted by cardiacpaul

as an attorney that I had disbarred said... the best offense is to make attack, and never respond to the questions.
A) my website isn't "free" I pay for it as I do my toll free telephone number.
I'll be more than happy to provide you with my bona fides if you'll tell me which boat you'd like surveyed.
I did not personally attack you, but i will wait for the photos and empirical data.
thank you for playing.

I'm not personally attacking you either. If you are going to come on here 40 pages into the thread and and start talking about things before you read the thread, then yes I am going to question your credentials.

Precedent has already been established here that if you want to play the game, you better be something other than NAUI certified.

So if you are a surveyor, what kind of ABYC and SAMS credentials do you carry?

Or did you get on on here to join in the attempts to discredit my findings.

It's fine either way with me.

[PBzeer]

Again, it has to be asked joe, what difference do paul's credentials have to do with responding to the questions he raised? Methodology used is of primary importance to evaluating any data. Or are people just supposed to take your word for it?

[conchyjoe]

Originally Posted by PBzeer

Again, it has to be asked joe, what difference do paul's credentials have to do with responding to the questions he raised? Methodology used is of primary importance to evaluating any data. Or are people just supposed to take your word for it?

John,

If you read through the post, you will see that I HAVE NOT asked anyone to take my word, and if what PS reports is acceptable, we will wait for that.

I don't care what anyone thinks about my credentials. I have been boating, sailing, and working on boats from a DIY perspective since I was 7-8 years old.

Take it or leave it. Either way is fine with me.

So I ask, what are your credentials and you criticize me? Sounds like some people don't have the real life experience I have had.

I don't questions Cam's experience, because it is abundantly clear on his website.

I don't see that on the newcomers site. He could have taken a course for all I know, got certified, and never even looked at a boat. Happens all the time in my industry.

[PBzeer]

Joe, you are unresponsive to the question, and have made it into something it isn't.

You "claim" certain results, yet you seem unable, or unwilling to do anything in the way of verifying those results, which are highly positive of a product you advertise on your web site. The methodology you used in your "independent testing" is thus, highly germaine to evaluating your claims.

In the three posts I have made, I do not once, question your credentials, seek to discredit you, nor in any way criticized you. I do though, one last time, mention that the credentials of no one else are relevant, because they are not the ones making claims about the performance of a product.

[conchyjoe]

Fair enough John,

i have not posted more findings for two reasons that you can see if you read through the posts:

1. Despite the fact that Susan and I reported info we believe is correct, volts/ohms/amps misinterpretations accepted, nobody with the exception of Sailingdog, has admitted that it is "possible" to 80-100AH out of the technology used in the SolarStik. I will once again submit that I saw a maximum of 79.9AH out of the SolarStik I tested.

I also reported what a sample Military finding was of 96.6AH in one day as their Maximum. I do not know any other details than what I reported.

The owner and chief engineer at BlueSky has also reported that it is possible, and even explains theory on PV technology that NOBODY ON THIS WEBSITE EVEN KNOWS. Including the only two people(Cam and Hello, sincerely) I respect in this thread with opposing views to mine and Susan's. For the record, it was pretty cool when I did my testing, and I think around 5 knts. give or take.

2. I posted previously that PS will publish an article that will 100% completely exonerate Susan and Myself. Until then, I will continue to fight the fight, and not let go of the bone until that happens.

So I ask you John, sincerely, why should I bother to post the data I have at home (I am at the Lake)?

So that everyone cen tell me I am nuts anyway? And I don't know ohms law, and this and that? No thanks. Besides, Sailingdog has already reported that 84.X is possible. Anybody calling him crazy? Quoting math and such. It's personal. Your damn right it's personal.

I stand by what I have reported all along. 79.9AH maximum in one day. 0AH after the sun went down.

[cardiacpaul]

He can question all he wants, still didn't answer the question.

I have read with great pain, all 40 pages of this thread, from the beginning. My choice to remain silent until now is mine, and mine alone. I have enjoyed the comments and opinion theory and fact. Its up to the individual reader as to how to form thier own opinions. All I did is ask for empirical data, and somebody gets all froggy and decides to jump up. So be it. It really doesn't bother me if the darn thing works or not. doesn't bother me at all if it works as described or not. Otherwise, the poster looks rather foolish.
I've got no dog in this hunt, but now I really wanna know.

Holder of 2 degrees, Comp.Sci and Math.
Member of a team that won the SME/CASA Lead award in Mfg for FORTRAN 6 axis NC Code.
Member of the ANSI FORTRAN 77 standards commitee.

I've been a member of the ABYC since 1983.
SAMS cert. in 1996
Over the past 24 months, I've surveyed 81 boats, power and sail. (not including the 60 in the aftermath of the gulf storms)
Approved by boatus, chubb and at least 4 other ins. companies for surveys.
On 3 nationwide finance companys approved list for valuations (and more local ones than I care to be involved with).

I don't need to do it full time, I have other revenue streams. I turn away more business than I take, simple reason? My health prevents me from crawling all over the darn things like I used to.

I am one cranky, opinionated SOB. I can also be a persons best friend, or the one bast*** they wish never walked the earth, and I don't care which side of the fence anyone falls on.

I've held a six-pack (up for renewal in 2 yrs) since 1989, I won't be able to keep it due to health reasons. Oh well, thems the breaks.

None of that amounts to a tinkers dam.

While I maybe a newcomer to this thread, I'm not one when it comes to boating, or sailing. Started getting wet on a hobie cat before puberty.

I don't have to prove myself to anyone, and I think this sums it up.

My self worth is not contingent upon your opinion of me.

You either can deliver the goods, or you can't and my meal isn't going to taste any different either way.

See, my "giveash*tefactor" is really low.
now, if y'all will excuse me, I'm going back to a boat to finish up some poli-glow. If the 13 year old can find the darn camera, I'll take some pictures.

[conchyjoe]

Originally Posted by cardiacpaul

He can question all he wants, still didn't answer the question.

I have read with great pain, all 40 pages of this thread, from the beginning. My choice to remain silent until now is mine, and mine alone. I have enjoyed the comments and opinion theory and fact. Its up to the individual reader as to how to form thier own opinions. All I did is ask for empirical data, and somebody gets all froggy and decides to jump up. So be it. It really doesn't bother me if the darn thing works or not. doesn't bother me at all if it works as described or not. Otherwise, the poster looks rather foolish.
I've got no dog in this hunt, but now I really wanna know.

Holder of 2 degrees, Comp.Sci and Math.
Member of a team that won the SME/CASA Lead award in Mfg for FORTRAN 6 axis NC Code.
Member of the ANSI FORTRAN 77 standards commitee.

I've been a member of the ABYC since 1983.
SAMS cert. in 1996
Over the past 24 months, I've surveyed 81 boats, power and sail. (not including the 60 in the aftermath of the gulf storms)
Approved by boatus, chubb and at least 4 other ins. companies for surveys.
On 3 nationwide finance companys approved list for valuations (and more local ones than I care to be involved with).

I don't need to do it full time, I have other revenue streams. I turn away more business than I take, simple reason? My health prevents me from crawling all over the darn things like I used to.

I am one cranky, opinionated SOB. I can also be a persons best friend, or the one bast*** they wish never walked the earth, and I don't care which side of the fence anyone falls on.

I've held a six-pack (up for renewal in 2 yrs) since 1989, I won't be able to keep it due to health reasons. Oh well, thems the breaks.

None of that amounts to a tinkers dam.

While I maybe a newcomer to this thread, I'm not one when it comes to boating, or sailing. Started getting wet on a hobie cat before puberty.

I don't have to prove myself to anyone, and I think this sums it up.

My self worth is not contingent upon your opinion of me.

You either can deliver the goods, or you can't and my meal isn't going to taste any different either way.

See, my "giveash*tefactor" is really low.
now, if y'all will excuse me, I'm going back to a boat to finish up some poli-glow. If the 13 year old can find the darn camera, I'll take some pictures.

Impressive. You should post all that on your site.

Gotta go take my bride to dinner, Good night all.