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STARWINDY 04-23-2007 12:50 PM

Looking for a thick, high hiding paint for headliner.
 
I have recently removed a headliner made of carpet from my Starwind 223. I used a combo of many products to cut the 20 year old adhesive and have it to an acceptable appearence. I put a primer coat of KILZ on the fiberglass and am looking for a topcoat that will help to hide the blemishes and imperfections in the fiberglass. Any suggestions?

sailingdog 04-23-2007 12:52 PM

Stucco... ;) Actually, most paints will show blemishes... what you probably should have done is faired it with thickened epoxy before putting the kilz on...

Guesser 04-23-2007 02:21 PM

It's kinda primitive, but you could add sand to the paint, (they sell it at paint stores, for this purpose). Or you could try a real nappy roller (no Imus jokes please) or maybe check out the faux finishing section at Home Depot, they have a bunch of sponges, and stuff to add texture to the finish...

resdog 04-23-2007 02:47 PM

I am about to get into the same kind of project on my boat this week. What did you find that works the best for removing the adhesive and in my case foam from the ceiling? I am considering using Zolatone to cover the unfinished glass. It's kind of a splatter paint, comes in a bunch of colors and textures and hides imperfections like you wouldn't believe. It has to be sprayed and I'm not looking forward to taping and masking the interior three times. Once for primer, again for a base coat and the last for the color/texture coat.

Give this a click.
Zolatone Automotive, Industrial, and Marine Coatings

Steekel 04-23-2007 03:09 PM

Resdog,

The masking is a lot of work, but the result is worth it. I used it on the inside of my 1st sailboat (Lido 14). I was impressed by the looks and durability

STARWINDY 04-23-2007 03:36 PM

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Resdog- Interlux 202 has had the best result in removing the old residue along with a scrapper and lots of patience. I'm sure if the working surface was not overhead..the job would be a nobrainer. It has been the worst part of the refit. I checked out the link and that looks perfect however this will mean buying some type of sprayer and spending more time and money. At this point, i can live with the roughness of the painted fiberglass. I just want to get the thickest paint available. Part of the fiberglass allready had been coated in something like what I'm after....just don't know what was used.

****Use a very good respirator and plenty of ventilation when/if using Interlux 202.....it works great but is the strongest smelling stuff I have used to date!!!!

Good luck with the headliner!

sailingdog 04-23-2007 05:27 PM

I think the Interlux 202 will do a pretty good job of the adhesive removal. Recommend you wear a tyvek bunny suit, gloves, googles and respirator when using it and scraping...since the fiberglass and cleaner are both rather nasty things..

The part of the fiberglass you see that has been coated is probably gelcoat...not paint. Gelcoat is definitely an option for you.

tdw 04-23-2007 08:14 PM

If the carpet was directly on to the solid glass (i.e it's not a lined or cored hull) be aware that simply painting the glass is going to give you a condensation problem.

shantijwk 04-23-2007 11:25 PM

Starwindy,
I would suggest using a vinyl liner that has a ”foam backing. That should cover the remaining surface nicely. I purchased some from Sailrite. They have several styles to choose from. It comes 54” wide and is reasonable. I removed some vinyl hull liner that was about 30 years old. I scraped the foam off and then sanded the residue, coated it with epoxy, sanded, faired the surface again with epoxy and then applied the liner using a marine grade spray adhesive (3M 8080). That was over kill but it is all a learning experience right? I realize no one likes to work overhead but I have to believe that the results will be vastly more appealing and nautical than sand paint….
Good luck, Shanti

sailorjim99 04-24-2007 10:25 AM

G'day guys
I am a painter in OZ and from what you say, you want to hide some garbagey old surface.

If a bit of roughness wont bother you, we have a product here called TEXTURE COTE. It is an acrylic, very thick, can be tinted most light colours and is applied with a texture roller. It is designed to hide the rough work of builders. (Painters make the worst builder look good) The roller sleeve has the appearance of a hull scrubber. Looks like fine wire but is a plastic material.(Like a brillo pad)
You should see texture cote around malls, shops etc.

Can give a small to very rough texture. Dries very hard and dont rub against it too hard.

Ask one of your local house painters. He should be able to put you on to what it is called where you are.

Love your attitude...Forget about the appearance...Go for simplicity..
Your DA man..

Jim:cool:


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