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To clarify—I use pin-retaining shackles on mainsail halyard and topping lift, but use snap shackles on the spinnaker and genoa halyards. These are attached to the halyard via a buntline hitch.

I do not use shackles on the clew of any headsail, since that means instead of getting a bruise for your trouble, when trying to tame a flogging sail, you get a concussion or worse. I use bowlines for the genoa and spinnaker sheets, but will probably go to a lark's head and a single longer sheet at some point in the future.

One thing on the bowlines—leave the tails a bit on the long side and tie the loops as small as possible. This makes it much less likely that the bowlines will shake out, which can happen on stiffer, older lines.

One neat trick I've seen for genoa sheets is an eyesplice with a stiffened tail that is used to lock the eyesplice into the clew of the sail. I wouldn't recommend this for a larger boat though.
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Man I wish I had a picture of the lark head knot, it's slick, I use it now on all 3 sails, a 150, 135 and a 90, the sail blows right threw and has never hung up on me, where the bowline did
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Man I wish I had a picture of the lark head knot, it's slick, I use it now on all 3 sails, a 150, 135 and a 90, the sail blows right threw and has never hung up on me, where the bowline did
I think this may be it: How to Make a Lark's Head Knot | eHow.com
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Sailingdog - ahh, that makes more sense. Since I've alread got 2 lines of appropriate length I'll have to use those. I checked up on the internet and it seems the cow hitch (or Lark's head or several other names) isn't quite what I was looking for.
HelloSailor - electrical tape to get the standing end out of the way. lol - not to carry any load. I have in-mast furling but you are correct, the genoa and mail halyards are spliced and shackled - I was looking at the topping lift which has a bowline.
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ok wait, you use a larks head straight through the clew of your jenny? Mine is hank-on, so I am not sure I could do that, although I like the idea of not having to worry about it hanging up.
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Why would being a hank-on sail affect whether you could use a lark's head knot for the jib sheets??? Granted, untying a lark's head from the clew of a jib, as you're trying to switch headsails is a royal PITA... but it would still be doable.
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Skrap, mines hanked,

Also, I don't understanding why you would want or need to untie the sheets when you do a sail change, you wouldn't with anyother sail change/knot configuration
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Skrap, mines hanked,

Also, I don't understanding why you would want or need to untie the sheets when you do a sail change, you wouldn't with anyother sail change/knot configuration

my sheets clip to the clew of the jib. when I get done sailing, I pull off my sheets and roll them up and stow them below, then I remove the jib.

the clip makes it easy to do this.
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Skrap, mines hanked,

Also, I don't understanding why you would want or need to untie the sheets when you do a sail change, you wouldn't with anyother sail change/knot configuration
Some people don't have a dedicated set of sheets for every sail... So untying a lark's head knot, when doing a sail change, with 50-100' of wet jib sheet to pull through is going to be less than fun.
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