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A stunsail halyard bend will give a compact knot for the boom vang. This page shows it on a spar but it could also work on a bail. Never tried it on a sheet.

Also shows the buntline hitch but calls it a topsail sheet bend.
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Most knots have at least one or two names for them.
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I had no idea that knot had a name and I believe the Larks Head would work very well on a cruising boat. In a race however I think you would want seperate sheets for sail changes. You could obviously use one long sheet on each sail but that involves a lot more line on the deck during the change and they both have to be refed.

Think I will stick with a bowline and my fore deck clearing it across during the tacks.
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For the larks head to work, you need tension on both ends, or the lose tail needs a half hitch to stop it working lose. I will stick with the bowline thanks and I can tie them one handed if needed.
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For the larks head to work, you need tension on both ends, or the lose tail needs a half hitch to stop it working lose. I will stick with the bowline thanks and I can tie them one handed if needed.
That's why it is only generally used if you have a single long line being used as both port and starboard genoa/jib sheets.
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That's why it is only generally used if you have a single long line being used as both port and starboard genoa/jib sheets.
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Exactly, if you haven’t got tension, as you wouldn’t on the port sheet if on a starboard tack the larks head has a tendency to slip. I'll see your and raise you
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Most knots have at least one or two names for them.
I've noticed that when knots are tied they have different names but any knot that won't come untied when you want it to is called the same name, an effen knot. Curiously, when a knot comes untied when you don't want it to, it is also called an effen knot, no matter what it was called when it was tied.

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If you were to tie a single overhand after the larks head I doubt very much you would have any significant slipping. It also wouldn't add enough bulk to the knot to equal the bulk of two bowlines or sheet bends using two sheets. I do believe that it would fray the sheet over time as the the knot twists after changing tacks. But then, just the larks head would do the same thing as it slides back and forth.

I have a ketch with a staysail stay and all I do is cruise around. I never change headsails and use sheet bends on two sheets. Even with a marlin spike you will be hard pressed to get this knot undone.

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So that's what that is called. I only have a single hank on headsail thus far so changing sails is not an issue. I've never had mine get loose or hang up while tacking. Considering the size of my boat, I might opt for dedicated sheets for each sail. Now on a larger boat, the sails would change, not the sheets so it wouldn't work. I also agree on no metal for sheets in headsails, good way to go off the side unconscious in a blow.
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