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Zanshin 04-25-2007 06:10 PM

Knot usage for sheets and halyards
 
I wanted to see if there are differences of opinion (I know this is almost an inflammatory point of view) or suggestions on knot usage for my sheets and some of the halyards, particularly the main, genoa and boom vang. At present I use the classic bowline and use electrical tape to hold the ends tight, particularly for the genoa where I sometimes get a knot hooked onto a shroud when tacking.

Are there other (perhaps more compact) knots in common use for sheets? I like an anchor knot but am worried that it might become too tight after use, and I like to rotate my sheets end-to-end frequently otherwise I would whip them together (splicing multibraid is too much work for this purpose).

poopdeckpappy 04-25-2007 06:49 PM

Lark head on the Jib or gennie, I learn that one here, and I like much better than the Bowline ( no longer hangs up ), however, I have bowline on the halyards, main and outhaul

brak 04-25-2007 06:56 PM

You can use something like "fishermans bend" on halyards, its "more permanent" and can be easily made tighter.

I am not sure I understand how "lark head" can be used on the genoa, I'd be curious to find out.

poopdeckpappy 04-25-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brak
I am not sure I understand how "lark head" can be used on the genoa, I'd be curious to find out.

No different than a Jib

sailingdog 04-25-2007 07:08 PM

I like the buntline hitch for halyards... The one downside of a good buntline hitch is that it is almost impossible to untie.

sailingdog 04-25-2007 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poopdeckpappy
No different than a Jib

Only difference is the single rope used might have to be a bit longer if you have a genoa rather than a jib.

poopdeckpappy 04-25-2007 07:16 PM

That is true sir

Zanshin 04-25-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poopdeckpappy
Lark head on the Jib or gennie...

I only have a small knot book here, my big one lists knot strengths and slippage information. Is the Lark's head sufficient for a Genoa? If so, it would seem I can tape the standing end to the working end and it won't hang up again!

sailingdog 04-25-2007 07:29 PM

Zanshin-

When using a lark's head for the genoa sheets, they're using a single long line for both genoa sheets, and tying the larks head in the middle of it. No lashing or taping needed.

hellosailor 04-25-2007 07:37 PM

Electrical tape?!

No shackles on halyards?

I still use bowlines for the genoa sheets but keep thinking there has to be a btter way, one that doesn't need metal headbangers and won't hang up on anything. I'm thinking there's probably a way to use two toggles...but keep tying bowlines meanwhile.


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