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Advance Sweet 16 Rudder Pattern

My rudder is on the bottom of the lake since last Saturday. Can anyone provide a sketch and dimensions for making a new one?
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There's got to be a good story attached to this... I wish I could help with the rudder, but I can't.
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There's got to be a good story attached to this...
I was getting acquainted with a 16 ft. daysailer I had bought. I was sailing it alone and flipped it. I learned that 1. It turns turtle; 2. The rudder latch is loose (rotated as the boat rotated); 3. The ziplock bag with my cell phone in it wasn't water tight; and 4. A new rudder will cost about half of what a decent used boat costs unless I build it myself.
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LOL I don't use ziplock bags to protect electronics any more... they're just not reliable. I will either leave it in the cabin, or it goes in a waterproof case.

Small daysailers are a lot of fun, but most of them capsize quite well. This can be a lot of fun during a hot summer day...

I take it that along with re-building the rudder you're planning on fixing the rudder latch.

You don't necessarily need to use the exact same rudder that was stock on the boat, and might be able to get away with a standard NACA foil design for the rudder. I don't know how the rudder connects to the boat, but if it uses standard pintles and gudgeons, it should be fairly feasible to do that.
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Clearly, not sufficient for rudder dimensioning, but all I could find - perhaps emailing the Sweet Sixteen Sailing Association s16@s16.org would put you in contact with more owners. http://www.s16.org/history.htm


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Almost dropped mine in the deep end on my first time out. Didn't like how close it was to the outboard prop, so kept it in the cabin till we got away from the ramp... Went to put it on & lining up the pintles & gudgeons at that angle while keeping the latch clear was very awkward. Throw in its weight, and not too hard to imagine shedding a tear as it vanishes into the abyss.

Have since kept a line connected to a stern cleat, just in case. And a "cajun tiller tamer" keeps the rudder clear of propeller.

There's some diagrams on the S16 Association site. I'm sure they'd give you more specifics, and maybe a lead on a spare.



If it's a man made lake that gets drained in the Fall, you could end up with a spare for next year.
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Thanks for the sketch. I'd been to an S16 site but didn't find that. Just checked out your link and found that I hadn't scrolled down far enough. Thought I was at the bottom of the page and wasn't. It is a man made lake but doesn't get drained - Lake Dardanelle on the Arkansas River.
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My rudder joined yours, different lake

Hi,
I am MORTIFIED. I held the rubber washer that fell out of the rudder lock in my hand and thought, "this needs replacing, I can do that next weekend" and launched the boat.

Forty-five minutes (and a VERY COLD dousing of Michigan lake water later, I also found myself rudderless.

My father bought our 16 in 1976 and never lost that rudder. I have the boat for the first time by myself and it's 40 feet down within the hour.

I need one FAST, too, my father is coming to sail the thing with me in 3.5 weeks. I can't bear to tell him we can't sail I don't have a rudder. Have you had any luck finding one? Did you have to make one? Want to make another one?

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Amy
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I am MORTIFIED. I held the rubber washer that fell out of the rudder lock in my hand and thought, "this needs replacing, I can do that next weekend" and launched the boat.

Forty-five minutes (and a VERY COLD dousing of Michigan lake water later, I also found myself rudderless.

My father bought our 16 in 1976 and never lost that rudder. I have the boat for the first time by myself and it's 40 feet down within the hour.

I need one FAST, too, my father is coming to sail the thing with me in 3.5 weeks. I can't bear to tell him we can't sail I don't have a rudder. Have you had any luck finding one? Did you have to make one? Want to make another one?

Thanks!
Amy
Ouch... that really sucks Amy... I wish I could help... Your best bet is to contact the S16 owner's association and see if they have a good source for the rudder.
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I emailed them so I am hoping to hear back today.
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