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If you end up having to recore the deck... It is very difficult to refinish the top and make it look nice. It will end up looking different from the rest of the boat - regardless of how careful you are.

Repairing it from the underside can be pretty soul-destroying...messy and you're working in very cramped quarters.
For a small area, it isn't too bad to do... provided you have decent access. Since he's talking about the area around a hatch IIRC, the access should be fairly decent.

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My suggestion would be to do it from the top. It will be much quicker. When you have finished, sand the entire deck smooth - and then apply the Vetus non-skid (or similar product) everywhere that you currently have a non-skid surface. There are a couple of Catalina 30's at my marina - side by side funnily enough - that have done this and it looks very good.

It will seem expensive when you first consider it, but in the long run it's not going to be too much more than you'll spend on various products trying to get a decent finish. You can even do it in stages.
Yes, several friends have re-done the core on their boats and have gone with Tredmaster or something similar... looks quite nice IMHO, but a bit pricey.

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If you ever decide you want to sell the boat, and if it has a poorly finished deck repair...you're going to get zilch for it.
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It's a 35 year old boat worth a grand or two. You don't want to go nuts pouring a lot of money into her. Sound out the extent of the rot with a plastic hammer tapping on the deck. If the bad areas is more than a few inches...Mark off the extent with masking tape and then use a roto-tool to cut out the deck section. Cut out the bad wood and insert good wood and epoxy it back in place. Then put the glass back on and epoxy that in place as well. Fill in the cut out grooves and do the gelcoat repairs and go sailing.

If the bad area is only a small patch...just drill a few holes in the top of the deck and squirt in lots of epoxy. Gel coat the holes and go sailing!
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Check the West System web site. They have a booklet on repairing fiberglass boats, and also I believe I saw an article on deck repair in their online magazine. It will give you a better idea of repairing the anti skid after the deck repair.

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Ok this is the method I think might work for you without taking off the top layer of skin. What you want to do as others have mentioned is sound out the area. Draw a large circle where your mallet sounds dull as there is probably delamination and/or wet nasty plywood under there. Now starting from the middle of the circlish figure drill a small pilot whole with at stopper on the drill so you don't drill down too far that you put a whole in the cabin. Take the drill out see if its wet. Do this all the way in the circle. You can now try to let it dry with heat gun, rubbing alcohol (combines with the water in the wood then when it dries up takes water with it, acetone(same as alcohol only flamable). Now for each of the holes put some screws in all the holes except two. Now take a nail and bend it at a 90 degree angle. Put one side in your hand drill. Slip the other side in the hole. Spin slowly meanwhile take a shop vac and place it over the 2nd hole (the only ohter one that doens't have a screw in it. While the nail spins it will remove all the wet **** and the vac will pull it out. Do this wiht ever hole keeping only two open at a time. Now let it sit and dry again in the sun for few days. Now take some epoxy and inject it into the holes starting with (i think) the highest point first (btw remove all the screws b4 doing this. Fill all the holes in a sequential order and then place tape or wax paper with a few bricks over the section. Let dry, then repaint. If you want to go the cheap way mix some of these polymer balls in the paint to get a non skid else by some non skid. Let me know how it worked out for you. Good luck. (sorry for the long post)
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I'm going through this exact same situation with my 1980 Hunter 37. The P.O. did a half-a#$ rebuild job of the deck, amazingly he used virtually no sealant and the wood has become soggy (though thankfully intact) over a large section of the deck from window and hardware leaks. I used the method mentioned above and drilled so many holes in the deck that it truly terrified me! After injecting epoxy in a 2'x5' section, i can say that it works marvelous! I've drilled some test holes between my injection holes and found that the epoxy penetrated and stiffened the wood quite nicely. It even took care of a couple of random squeaks. Good luck, it's a major job but much more time consuming than anything. Of course i have to repaint the deck and non-skid anyway, so surface damage didn't bother me that much.
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Generally, if the area is larger than 1'x1' or so, it is a far better idea to re-core the area, rather than drill and inject epoxy.
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