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I have had a West Marine auto inflate with harness for 7 years now. It has not gone off yet. I have removed the tablet and canister when I have flown with it. It is all easy to remove and install. Spare tablets are cheap, you can buy a bag of them for a few bucks, just change them out once in a while if you want.
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The triggers (the tablet is integral) can be replaced without replacing the gas cartridges. As long as a cartridge is still sealed it is probably still good, but recent instructions all tell you to weigh the cartridge (i.e. on a postal or drug scale) and compare the weight to the mfg. one stamped on it, which is not a bad idea.

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I suppose I shouldn't mention that my old Crewfit got well past 5 years on the original inflator. 18 years actually before it let go sometime in the winter. (My bad, I should have removed the cart before storing it.!)
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If you sail with a lot of spray or rain, the salt tablets can dissolve prematurely... The hydrostatic releases only trigger if they are immersed 4". No amount of spray or rain is going to accidentally trigger it.

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Seems to me that a salt tablet dissolves fairly quickly in water, is cheap, and ought to be as reliable as anything else. Hydrostatic release reminds me of the story that NASA spent millions on developing a ball point pen that works in zero gravity, but the Russians used a pencil.
NASA didn't spend any money developing a pen that worked in space: Urban Legends Reference Pages: NASA Space Pen
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Funny thing about that, I prefer pencils in my nav bag as well. They don't leak if you fall asleep with them in your pocket (as some BIC pens did) and they don't freeze up in the cold, and they don't mind if you are writing upside-down against a wall.

Also, while it is easier to "erase" pencil writing, it is harder to truly erase it. The graphite embeds in paper and leaves forensic traces when a pen or felt tip would be totally removed. (Something our own FBI taught me.)
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Funny thing about that, I prefer pencils in my nav bag as well. They don't leak if you fall asleep with them in your pocket (as some BIC pens did) and they don't freeze up in the cold, and they don't mind if you are writing upside-down against a wall.

Also, while it is easier to "erase" pencil writing, it is harder to truly erase it. The graphite embeds in paper and leaves forensic traces when a pen or felt tip would be totally removed. (Something our own FBI taught me.)
Last I checked, the better inks, like those in the "anti-fraud" gel pens will leave significant traces behind, even if you try to remove them chemically—more so than pencils.

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Dunno about anti-fraud gel pens. The thing about pencils, is that the graphite mix is impervious to chemical alteration, the only way to remove it once it has been embedded into the paper fibers, is by destroying the fibers and that leaves absolute evidence of tampering. Simple, cheap, effective.

When I wanted to sign things "permanently" (a couple of wills, marriage certificates, etc.) I used to use an Acetograph, a drafting pen that carves into the paper and embeds a permanent india ink. Stays black and permanent for a very long time.
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I was taught, years ago that a log should be kept in pencil. That way it would survive water without running and be impossible to erase without a trace. No idea whether it was true or not but I was taught that it was required by law if a log was required.
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I happened to notice that Sailnet is selling the SOSPenders autoinflate PFD with integral harness for $160, but asking a full $100 more ($260) for the similar vest from Mustang.

Why the big price difference? Anyone have any idea?
Have you ever tested an auto-inflate pfd? Suppose you're knocked-out as you fall overboard and your pfd inflates. Will it keep you from drowning? I doubt it. Still, it will help them find your body.

In the 1980s I was on a boat that capsized with 7 people aboard. We had just completed a dive and were still wearing our BCs when we got hit broadside by a massive wave.

I was the only one wearing a classic, vest style BC, made by Scubapro. The flotation and balance was so superior to every other BC it was amazing. It held my head up about a foot out of the water and I didn't have to move my arms or legs a bit to maintain a perfect, comfortable, balance position. No matter what the wave action or how hard I got smacked, it quickly re-positioned me straight upright, while the others struggled to stay alive. The Scubapro Classic BC is a superbly designed product and makes a better lifejacket than anything on the market because its massive flotation is low - under the arms. One poor slob had a BC that floated him face down! He had to put it on backwards.

Since then I have worn an old Scubapro vest BC on all crossings. Of course, I removed the backpack and replaced the big inflation hose with a small one. The material is soft and quite comfortable, especially after being broken-in through a couple hundred dives. It has a big, manually operated Co2 bottle - no auto-inflate, but hey nothing's perfect.

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What's BC stand for???

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