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OK...simple way...

Open fuel cap, its dark inside, so light up a match to see better inside and approach it......
Better way, you could use fertilizer to soak up the diesel. Insert a fuse. It would probably clean out half your marina.
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Better way, you could use fertilizer to soak up the diesel. Insert a fuse. It would probably clean out half your marina.
Oh O, I think sailnet has just been flagged on the FBI computers them words in the same sentence.
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That would mean that CapnHand has been flagged as a person of interest..
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What, you didn't hear the rumour that DHS was spnsoring this whole web site, so they could keep an ear on boating traffic? < WEG >

Seriously, now they're trying to float a plan that would have all small craft equipped with transponders, to make sure we're not sneaking terrorists around the harbors. I wonder if anyone ever told the Secretary of Homeland Insecurity that anything electrical just isn't all that reliable on small craft...
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Transponders on boats??? Oh Me! Oh My!
Its happening. AIS, Automated Identifying System. Now being put on all commerical vessels. And some yachts are putting it on board also. Great when tied into your radar along with your GPS. You can now see where the other vessels are at night or in restricted visibility.
Yes the USCG knows where you are, but you know where everyone who has transponding AIS is at also. This should really help in reducing collisions at sea, the rivers and in the harbors. But you still don't know where the vessels that don't have AIS are at??
This is one of those tools that can help you be safe out there. But then makes it harder for you to hide from the authorities, unless you turn it off. But it does have a "Pirate Panic Button" on some models. And in some areas of this world you still need it.
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Well, ignoring the fact that the USCG in the Port of Miami has been doing heavy testing with AIS and tracking...and publicly stated that basically they are overwhelmed almost all the time and find it nearly useless?

Yeah, right, you try telling every kid with a SkiDoo to install AIS on it, and then figure out a way to maintain it in operation.

It makes me think we'll all need to buy surplus weather balloons (aka The Prisoner) stick transponder in 'em, and them have a protest "float".

Or better yet, fly to the nearest jihadi and stick an AIS in HIM. this business of flagging all the sheep in order to watch the wolves, gets old fast.
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Why don't sailboat fuel tanks have sump drains a la aircraft fuel tanks? It wouldn't solve the algae and water problem, but it would go a long way in doing so.
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"Why don't sailboat fuel tanks have sump drains "
Depending on who you ask, it is a USCG regulation, or an ABYC regulation, or an insurance thing. Someone doesn't want to take any chance on your dumping 50 gallons of explosive fuel into the bilge, no matter how well you think the tank drain is secured.
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Some custom-built tanks do have a sump area and a sump pickup tube, but that's fairly rare in production boats.
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The drains you see on the lower surfaces of aircraft wing/fuselage fuel tanks and lower parts of the engines are primarily to remove water prior to starting and take off. Water is heavier than fuel and could ice the system causing a shutdown. Depending on the size of the aircraft, large "defuel valves" are installed you use to connect drain hoses and defuel the aircraft using the onboard pumps.

Jet fuel is a little better grade than diesel and suffers the same biological growth problems. An additive called "Prist" is added to jet fuel either in the ground tank or by spray bottle and introduced while fueling to prevent the biological contamination that occurs in untreated jet fuel and to prevent icing at altitude.

I have to clean my diesel tank and am following this thread to learn the best way to do it. I will be using Prist or a similar additive with every fueling there after.

Wish I had a defuel valve and an access panel!
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