Radar Installation Issues - SailNet Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 8 Old 06-25-2007 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
MarkWood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 19
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Radar Installation Issues

I recently had a Raymarine Radar installed on the mast, just above the spreader on my Catalina 36. The problem is that the radar cable running down the mast is slapping very loudly with any movement of the boat.

The contractor who installed this unit tried "tightening" the cable, but it has only gotten worse. My hunch is that it should have been run thru conduit, and wasn't.

Anyone out there know the proper way to address this issue?

Thanks,

Mark Wood
MarkWood is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 8 Old 06-25-2007
Senior Member
 
Valiente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,491
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 12
   
Run it through conduit. A cheap alternative, although the halyards might chew it up eventually, is the sort of foam pipe insulation, snugged with electrical tape, that insulates copper plumbing. I've heard of the smaller type of "pool noodle" working as well. Regardless, the mast will need to come down, or you'll have to turn up the white noise maker until haul out.
Valiente is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 8 Old 06-25-2007
Just another Moderator
 
Faster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 18,568
Thanks: 137
Thanked 477 Times in 451 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
I remember hearing of a method of securing the wire by drilling a small hole in the mast, inserting a wire hook, hopefully "snagging" the offending wire, pull the hook tight and somehow rivet it snug from the outside.....

Sounds a bit hoky, but maybe it's doable with the sizable radar cable.
Faster is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 8 Old 06-25-2007
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 1,881
Thanks: 0
Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 12
   
The proper way to do it is to run it through a channel or conduit.

A cheap fix which works pretty well....IF you can get to the wire....is to use cable ties, arranged at about 18" centers. At each chosen point, tie three cable ties around the wire at 120 degrees separation. The plastic ends make contact with the mast and stop the cable slapping.

I know how annoying this is; I lived with a similar situation for years, until I bit the bullet and installed a proper channel for the wire.

Bill
btrayfors is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 8 Old 06-25-2007
Full-time Cruiser
 
jonlgauthier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Aboard
Posts: 62
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 17
 
Mark,

Your Catalina is a 2001 model according to your profile. It should have existing conduit in the mast - so I'd think your installer took the lazy way out. It may well be that he was too lazy to run a fish tape thru the conduit (was the install done with the mast already stepped?)

I'd have him re-do it for no additional charge. It appears he didn't do it right the first time, and you shouldn't have to pay for it done right. If he's not on the up-and-up, he may feed you a story about how the current in the radar cable will affect your wind instrument, or your VHF will affect the radar if it's run in the same conduit. Baloney.

Cap'n Jon
KB1HTW
S/V Beausoleil
1979 Formosa 51 Ketch
Homeport: Marblehead, MA USA
jonlgauthier is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 8 Old 06-26-2007
Telstar 28
 
sailingdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 15
         
Mark-

I'd have to agree that you should ask the marine contractor to do a proper installation of the cable. It was botched...and should be rectified.

Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
sailingdog is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 8 Old 06-26-2007 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
MarkWood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 19
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog
Mark-

I'd have to agree that you should ask the marine contractor to do a proper installation of the cable. It was botched...and should be rectified.
Thanks everyone for your input.

I did talk with the contractor, who attempted once to correct it, but is not giving me the impression he is going "to do the right thing" without some shall I say "convincing". Which is why I'm gathering the information to be certain I have all my facts straight before I begin further action.

Mark
MarkWood is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 8 Old 06-26-2007
Telstar 28
 
sailingdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 15
         
This is one reason I try to pay contractors with a credit card, if at all possible. The credit card company can be an 1800 lb. gorilla in your corner should you have a problem with the work done.

Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
sailingdog is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Navigating with Radar Jim Sexton Seamanship Articles 0 03-29-2002 08:00 PM
Radar Basics Jim Sexton Seamanship Articles 0 11-14-1999 08:00 PM
Radar Basics Jim Sexton Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 11-14-1999 08:00 PM
Radar Basics Jim Sexton Cruising Articles 0 11-14-1999 08:00 PM
Radar Basics Jim Sexton Her Sailnet Articles 0 11-14-1999 08:00 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome