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I run an onboard recirculation polishing system that I designed myself. Ive been involved in filtration engineering for the past 30 years.

I have a black iron 110 gallon fuel tank.

I started with a fully cleaned and mechanically scrubbed tank. The recirculation polishing system is fully independent of the main fuel delivery system: Independent dip tube that runs from the VERY bottom of the tank (to pick up free water and settled particulate ---> Walbro 12v. 3 gpm transfer pump (with integral suction screen) wired directly to the engine panel ---> 5uM industrial (10" long X 2.5" dia.) polypropylene spun bonded filter) ... filter housing has drain port to which I attached a clear (tygon) drain tube to visualize if water is in the bowl of the carbon steel filter housing (housing has 0-15 psi pressure gage to monitor filter condition) ---> back to tank. System will 'turnover' 100 gallons in approx 30 minutes (due to pressure drop losses). Constant turnover of tanakge will yield the resident particulate in the tank to submicronic levels (a 5uM filter will have a % of captuire sites in the submicronic range) ... I verify the particle resident ranges by nephalometry - an optical correlation to actual particle size. So in approx 8 hours of run time, I filter approx. 2000 gallons of oil through the recirc. system. I change the filter at a differential operating pressure of about 8-10 psid.

EVen if the 'worst' hapapens ... I pick up a load of bad fuel or I get a particle storm break loose from the tank walls, the RECOVERY of the system back to sub-micronic levels is quite FAST.

The advantage to a high 'turnover system' is that the oil is continually filtered at relative high (3 gpm) volumes to take advantage of the essentially % submicronic removal ability of a 'coarse' 5uM filter. When the filter gets 'dirty' the effect is even greater (using trapped dirt to filter more dirt). The reason for this is that if the submicronic particles are continually removed there are no 'nucleation sites' onto which particles will grow (agglomerate).

I do thoroughly mechanically scrub/clean out the tank every two years. I also carefully check any oil that I put injto the tank: I put the oil into a clear glass and hold it up between my eyeball and a strong white light, if there is any 'cloudiness' to the oil ... I close up and simply go somewhere else. I usually ONLY buy fuel from a high turnover source ... such as a fuel depot that services 'watermen'; if possible NEVER from a marina.

The Main fuel system used to have a dual block and bypass 30-->10---2然 Racor but Ive since removed all this 'complexity' with the exception of one single LARGE surface area 2uM Racor ... which simply doesnt get any challenge of particles due to the effectiveness of the recirculation system. The 2然 Racor is fitted with a block and bypass which allows me to switch to the bypass if I need to change the Racor (the 2然 engine mounted 'guard filter' temporarily doing ALL the main system filtration). The main system then delivers to a 3 gallon 'day tank' so in the worst case scenario I can switch solely to the (gravity feed) 'day tank' and run at WOT for about 4 hours until I sort out (later) any problems in the recirc or Racor. The main fuel delivery system is PRESSURE FEED with a 12v. diaphragm pump AT the tank and all the feed lines are double flared stainless tube.

The Walbro was ~$175.00
The carbon steel 10" X2.5" was about $80.00
5然 Osmonics polypropylene spun bonded (GX05-10) @ $8.00 ea.) .... dirt capacity is about 30 grams.
All the piping is stainless steel double flared. .... as copper is reactive with diesel fuel and compression fittings usually eventually leak (and suck air).

To prevent water 'uptake' of the fuel, I have installed a (regenerable Silica Gel with indicator dye) desiccant filter/trap on the tank vent line. Diesel fuel is quite dry when cracked/distilled but if left open to the atmosphere will pick up water by chemical equilibrium .... through the vent. The desiccant filter/trap prevents such water 'uptake'.

My main system is is pressure feed (12 v. diaphragm pump AT the tank) --> 2然 Racor (with block and bypass) ---> engine 2然 'guard' filter ----> daytank ---->engine. Pressure feed is **vastly more efficient** for filtration plus as if a fitting begins to leak I dont 'suck air' (but I run a bombproof stainless piping system so that leaks are virtuallly impossible ... as I dont need to fill the bilge with oil or get huge fines from the CG).

Hope this helps.

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Setting up a "polishing pump" in the boat is a great idea...but I think the price of diesel pumps is what stops most folks from thinking about it. Any electric pump rated for diesel fuel seems to mean another $200++ and then that's just the start.
The article I mentioned on the first post says the pump cost $70. It was bought at an autoparts store and has a pass through valve so it can be in line when not activated.
Off course, the dual filter system has a pump too and I've been told that I should put it on my credit card now because it will save me lots of money next time I take the boat out.

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That 'auto store' pump is only going to recirculate about 3-4 gallons per HOUR ... not suitable for a recirculation system. The 'mathematics' of recirculation filtration needs a high turnover rate - such as a 'transfer pump' at 3 gallon per MINUTE (180 gallons per HOUR). If you're mathematically able, its follows Newtonian Laws of "exponential decay". :-)
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For the sub-30-foot crowd, with a 20 gallon tank, "That 'auto store' pump is only going to recirculate about 3-4 gallons per HOUR ... not suitable for a recirculation system." sure, that pump could handle a full tank in a long afternoon.

Of course, a $500 higher volume diesel-rated fuel pump is still WAY cheaper than the cost of one tow for a fuel failure.
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Even with a small tank of 20 gallons it wont work very well using a 3gph inline diaphragm pump ....

Making some simplistic assumptions:
The particles in the tank will be 3/20 gallons of 'dilution' of particles IN the tank as the filter sends clean oil back ( a 3gph) to the tank --- which only DILUTES the tank contents of particles at that constant rate.

The sequence would be something like this (reverse compound interest):
17/20 = .85X dilution in 1 hour
.85)17/20 = .72X dilution in 2 hours
.72)17/20 = .61X dilution in 3 hours
.61)17/20 = .52X dilution in 4 hours
.52)17/29 = .44X dilution in 5 hours
.44) .... = .37X in 6 hrs.
.37) .... = .32X in 7 hrs.
.32) .... = .27X in 8 hrs.
.27) .... = .23X in 9 hrs.
.23) .... = .20X in 10 hrs.
.20) .... = .17X in 11 hrs.
.17) .... = .14X in 12 hrs.
... ... ...
.05) = .046 in 18 hours

total oil filtered in 18 hours = 54 gallons
*** not included is the flow reduction due to partial filter plugging.... which should very adversely expand the dilution time.

Will take 18 hours to remove 95% of the particles to the rating retention of filter ..... thats inefficient as hell. Consider if you have crud break loose from the walls which dumps enough mass of particles to plug a Racor (about 30 grams) .... . A recirculation system at 3 GPM will 'recover' to the approx same levels in about less than 1 hour. :-)

A 'normal' recirculations system only works with HIGH turnover rates (and uses LARGER retention filters (typically at 5X the target uM retention) - for less operating pressure drop through the filter) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. This is exactly how the oil filter on an automobile works.

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