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Don't you find the Merchant Mate Type I uncomfortable in the summer heat??
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I swim like a rock. But I do swim well under water. So I wear a Stearns Merchant Mate type I vest. I also have a PFD belt that I bought a long, long time ago, that has saved my butt, a couple of times.
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The WM 4000 uses a salt-tablet based Secumar auto inflator mechanism, not the hydrostatic pressure-based inflator. Be aware that they have a very small fine print caveat on them that they are not designed for people shorter than 5' 8" or so. I believe this is because the harness is not height adjustable... so if you're short, like me, don't get it.
Is this on the packaging? I have not been able to find any of this information online.
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The WM 4000 uses a salt-tablet based Secumar auto inflator mechanism, not the hydrostatic pressure-based inflator. Be aware that they have a very small fine print caveat on them that they are not designed for people shorter than 5' 8" or so. I believe this is because the harness is not height adjustable... so if you're short, like me, don't get it.
Thanks for the heads up, I am over 6' tall so not a concern there.

When everyone says built-in harness, is is one that wraps around your legs like a climbing harness or am I thinking incorrectly? Just trying to figure out what to do comfort-wise.
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Don't you find the Merchant Mate Type I uncomfortable in the summer heat??
Not as much a drowning, lol. I do wear that pfd belt alot. I don't know the brand, the name tag is long gone.
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A sailing harness goes around the torso, and is designed to keep your head out of the water should you fall in the water. If you were to use a climbing harness as a sailing harness, and fell in the water, you'd quickly drown, since it would tend to drag you head down... since it would be below your center of gravity. Probably not what you want. The better sailing harnesses have crotch or thigh straps—with the thigh straps being more comfortable and safer IMHO.

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Thanks for the heads up, I am over 6' tall so not a concern there.

When everyone says built-in harness, is is one that wraps around your legs like a climbing harness or am I thinking incorrectly? Just trying to figure out what to do comfort-wise.
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I can see how you wouldn't mind the Type I... Still, I find them really uncomfortable, and went with an inflatable with integrated harness.
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Not as much a drowning, lol. I do wear that pfd belt alot. I don't know the brand, the name tag is long gone.
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A sailing harness goes around the torso, and is designed to keep your head out of the water should you fall in the water. If you were to use a climbing harness as a sailing harness, and fell in the water, you'd quickly drown, since it would tend to drag you head down... since it would be below your center of gravity. Probably not what you want. The better sailing harnesses have crotch or thigh straps—with the thigh straps being more comfortable and safer IMHO.
Thanks man! I guess I'm still getting my mind around these harness things. So I guess it's not easy to move around the boat when you're tethered in?
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It should be noted that inflatable life vests are a type 3 and must be worn in order to meet the requirement that there must be a life vest for every person on board. For cruisers this means you must have a type 1 or 2 on board as well.
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Thanks man! I guess I'm still getting my mind around these harness things. So I guess it's not easy to move around the boat when you're tethered in?

It's not bad if you're used to doing it... but that is the key... wearing the harness and tether and clipping in so that it becomes second nature makes it much safer to do in bad weather...rather than just using the tether and harness in bad weather and having it become a hindrance and more of a liability. I single-hand a fair amount, so I use the harness and tether when I am single-handing, even in good weather.

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Is this on the packaging? I have not been able to find any of this information online.
The information is on the packaging, but isn't mentioned in the catalog or on-line, and most of the sales people aren't aware that it says this.
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