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I just ran out and measured. the bottom of the keel is 16 inches off the ground at the axel. (big tires on the trailer).

To be sure, if you stick with the cradle on a flat bed, your center of gravity will be higher. I can't tell you how that would work.

I found my trailer already set up to haul a boat out there on the used market... Have you looked?
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Tree- I did look for used boat trailers this spring, and couldn't find anything decent. Since I have since built a cradle, that fits the boat, I really don't want to start over. I could buy axles and try to build the cradle into the trailer, instead of on top of it. However, it still would not sit nearly as low, as using drop axles and building up.

Thanks for the input, and measuring your trailer. It's good to be able to see how much difference I would have. Measured ysterday: boat is almost 5' draft + just over 5' above water + 26" trailer + 4" cradle = 12 1/2 tp 13'
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We can rent big sailboat trailers here. That may be a way to go. I drove 4 hours to Houston once and brought the trailer back for a quick Ferry. It was easy. You would just have to be able to get it back off at your place. I think you could build a pair of A frame Hoists and still save over some of the alternatives. We're about to build a 30 by 40 barn (with hoists) for our boat to have a re-modeling home this year.

We liked that rental so much we bought it. Very handy. Fully adjustable for all shapes so you can let friends borrow or rent. Our keel sits 12 inches off the road.
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I'm assuming you're in New Brunswick. Talk to the people at your Transportation Department. You'll need a permit for widths from 8'6" to 12', but no pilot cars unless you go over 12'.

The permit office will check your proposed route and can tell you what the bridge clearances are everywhere.

Also check with Cradle Ride Trailers in Toronto. I'm sure they can answer your questions about how feasible it is to trailer this boat. They could also work up a quote for you on one of their trailers.

Sounds like reasonable idea to me.

Good luck,

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I did check into the overwidth permit, and you are right - don't need any control vehicles. This spring, I built my cradle in a week, or so, of evenings and I am now pricing drop axles, with electric brakes, to build my own trailer. It will cost approx $2000 to buy tandem 6000lb axles or triple 3500 lb axles (including wheels and tires)

I will probably use 6" x 1/4" channel steel for the frame, and then weld my cradle to sit inbetween the frame rails.
It will cost me as much as buying a flatbed already built, but I will have all new axles, brakes, and the keel will sit at least a foot lower than with a flatbed. The steel will cost me about $450, as much of it already exists in my cradle.

I did check the trailer prices, however, as I can use my cradle, in the design, I can save a decent amount.
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Sounds like a good plan. I'd recommend going with the tandem rather than the triple axles. Turning it will be easier.
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SD - I am pricing both in Maine, as the exchange rate is still good. I had thought of the triple setup, as our big Discount dealer - Princess Auto, has 6000 lb axles on sale, but not the 4' drop - just straight. For the same price, I can get 3 3500lb axles. Despite needing more tires / rims, it is about equal in price, as each tire is lower rated, and therefore less expensive. I would probably go with 14 or 15" tires on the triple setup, which would be lower to the ground, than with the 16" tires, used on the tandem 6000lb setup.
I will wait and see what the Maine Trailer prices are like. The Princess Auto axles are a bit narrower, 69" spring centers (85 hub face) than I would like, so I am hoping the Maine prices are good.

Thanks for the advice!
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If you're ambitious and a good welder, look for a pair of 3/4 ton pickup rear axles in a junk yard. They're rated for about 6000 pounds.

Make sure you have the fully floating axles, the kind where the hub bearings support the wheel and the axle shaft only provides torque to turn the wheel. Ones where the axle end sticks out past the wheel hub and has its own bolts, like this:



With these you can cut the hubs off the axles, then make up a drop center axle and weld the hubs on. You also keep the hydraulic brakes and can hook them up to a hydraulic surge brake actuator. Tires and wheels will also come from the junkyard.

I once saw a trailer that was built this way, and I was going to do the same for a 6000 lb boat. Turns out I sold the boat before I got around to building the trailer.

Have fun!

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Depending on where you're from, mobile home dealers usually have a few axles they're glad to have hauled off or will sell for a few bucks. They have plenty weight capacity, usually 6,000lbs or more. Easy to narrow these axles if needed.
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If you are going to add axles to your cradle or build a trailer you will have enough going on without having to modify axles as well. Buy the axles and save yourself hours and hours of work. Plus you will have new tires, wheels and brakes.

By the way I don't remember any mention of brakes yet. Make sure you get brakes on each set of axles. Electric will be fine since you won't be using the trailer to launch.

Tires and wheels for mobile home axles are not that easy to find.

Don't skimp on the weight capacity either.
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