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FullandBy said nothing about overhead or ceilings. My guess is when he said walls he meant the sides of the hull being walls. Funny how things get mis-understood so easily.
As JHP mentioned, the WALLS or interior sides of the hull are called CEILINGS. It is indeed funny how things get misunderstood. Mr. Pollard was trying to let FullandBy know that when he was referring to those areas of the boat, if he used the word ceilings then everyone else would know what he was talking about, thereby avoiding any misunderstandings....

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Catalina274me,

I'm not a stickler for terminology. I just thought it would be helpful to the conversation if we were all on the same page for this project. No real harm in that, eh?

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I missed this post. Thanks for filling in with your humorous clarification.
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I think you are missing what FullandBy said: Interior Cabin Walls

I don't know why JohnRPollard saidby the way, what you refer to as "walls" are properly called ceilings in a boat, don't ask me why, and what you might ordinarily think of as the ceiling is referred to as the "overhead")
Catalina274me, JohnRPollard said that to clarify that on a boat the "walls" are called ceilings and that the "ceiling" is actually referred to as an overhead. The terrestrial terms are in quotes and italics and the marine terms are in boldface.

It is much easier to communicate if everyone is on the same page and using the proper terminology. If I'm calling something a wall, and everyone else is calling it a ceiling...someone is going to get pretty confused, like you did. Before jumping all over JohnRPollard, you might want to sit back and actually read what he wrote a couple times, until you understand it.... it was fairly well written, concise and quite clear.
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Who supplies wood trim for the bulkheads (that I could get a hold of on the internet)?

I had a pile of it I got with the Lancer when we bought it, but it only finished 75% of the boat, leaving the quarter berths still covered in vinyl... It doesn't matter if the wood type or grain matches, as long as I can finish it with a wood color... haha... it is too far from the other woodwork we did to notice if there would be a difference in materials or even pattern, so all I need is "wood" from somebody to finish my work.

Now I'm a total wood-noob. I did this on my own, and if I can do it, anyone can:


I have fixed that hanging trim piece too by the way, it was pulled back because we just finished the panels.
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Very nice Lancer... I can see why you want the whole cabin to match.
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There was an article in the last issue of Good Old Boat that reviewed a project like this. The guy used thin planks with clinker type lap joints. Lots of pics and a good write up on the procedures he used. If you can get a copy, it may help you out with what you want to do. (GOB will send you a free trial copy if you ask.)
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We just finished one ceiling in our Foc's'tle using tounge and groove 3/16" pine. Our hull is ferrocement. We gutted the ceiling to the bare hull, glued on (Lepages Bulldog grip polyurethane PL premium glue) 1 1/2 " strips for anchoring.

Then we glued on 1" foam insulation. All cracks (missed spots) filled with expanding foam from a can. Trimmed the foam, then glued aluminium faced bubble wrap and taped the edges with aluminium tape. Total thickness of insulation: 1 1/4" to leave a gap of 1/4" for circulation. The bubble wrap also acts as a vapour barrier and there is NO condensation whatsoever. (ventilation helps a great deal)

We then stripped the ceiling with the pine and varnished with a polyurethane. Looks incredible!!

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Sorry for this - where did you get your pine supplies? I could use that since it is cheap and inhales poly varnish like crazy
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If your planning on using pine instead of the pre finished teak I had suggested. It may be a good idea to varnish or poly the back side of the pine as it will wick water because the pine is so soft and porous.
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I agree, I always poly both sides of the wood that I put on our sailboat.
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