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Tiller too long?

I am new to sailing and I have a question regarding the tiller on my recently purchased O’Day Widgeon. I have only sailed her a few times, but it seems like the tiller is too long. The Widgeon has a centerboard trunk and the mainsheet cam clamp that is mounted at the rear of the cb trunk. The tiller extends sufficiently close to the cb trunk that I am having trouble getting around it when I change sides after tacking. I will be sailing the Widgeon single-handed most of the time so the longish tiller may be appropriate. The only other sailing that I have done was on a Sunfish. It had a tiller extension which allowed me to fold it back out of the way when I changed sides.

My question is should I cut off the end of the wooden tiller handle to shorten it?
Or do I just need more practice moving around in the boat?
Is there a down-side to shortening it?
If I cut down the handle, should I reattach the loose end as a tiller extension?
Where can I find the hardware needed to add a tiller extension?

I would like to hear the advice of those with experience before making an irreversible change to my tiller.

Thanks,
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A photo would really help. The downside to shortening a tiller is that you will have less leverage with a shorter tiller. If your boat is well-designed and doesn't have any serious helm balance problems, then shortening it a bit probably shouldn't be a problem. YMMV, as I have never sailed the boat in question.

Given that you're fairly new to sailing, and probably don't have a lot of experience with sailing and moving around a tiller-steered boat, I get the feeling that it is more a question of you getting more practice moving around the boat than anything else. I'd leave it alone until you've gotten some more experience sailing.

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I don't know why you could not cut it and hinge the cut so it could fold up or down on itself as needed... but I do not have much experience with tillered boats.

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if the boat really needs a long tiller, the hinge has to be fairly substantial to handle the torque without tearing out of the tiller or twisting under the load. Stick to the catalinas...would ya...
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Sorry, my input may not help, I am not familer with the O'day Widgeon, however on my O'day 26, I can just raise the tiller handle up do a quick duck-switch and bring it back down. timing and practice, and with me only required when having more than 3 in the cockpit, and I dont have the centerboard trunk to dodge. I would go with Sailingdog's advice, and try different things before you start cutting, new tiller handles can be $$
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if the boat really needs a long tiller, the hinge has to be fairly substantial to handle the torque without tearing out of the tiller or twisting under the load. Stick to the catalinas...would ya...
Well, I would probably put more than just a hinge on it. You could have something fabricated pretty easy that would exceed the strength of the wood and still allow it to fold back on itself. I am not so worried about it working, just whether or not it would look good or be functional enough.

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However, be aware that you can't post links or links to photos until you've gotten 10 posts under your belt.
I doubt that the 10 post rule will be much of a problem.

Saildog and CD

Thanks for the quick replies. I will get some more practice before making any changes. If I do decide to modify the tiller, I think CD's idea of a simple hinge might work well (it's also a cheap fix which is always appealing). I'll post a photo after a few more posts.

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Sorry, my input may not help, I am not familer with the O'day Widgeon, however on my O'day 26, I can just raise the tiller handle up do a quick duck-switch and bring it back down. timing and practice, and with me only required when having more than 3 in the cockpit, and I dont have the centerboard trunk to dodge. I would go with Sailingdog's advice, and try different things before you start cutting, new tiller handles can be $$
joeybkcmo,
I can also raise the tiller on my Widgeon (which by the way is only 12'), but I still have trouble avoiding the cb trunk, main sheet, boom, and tiller handle. I expect I just haven't gotten the knack of it yet.

Lets see, I'm up to 4 posts already.

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I didn't realize the Widgeon was so small. I think it is just a case of learning to move around the boat to start with...
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Here is just some quick thoughts on what I might design... just having some fun with it. THis way you could keep your length and still have a strong, functional arm when necessary...

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