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Move to Texas. You can sail and not worry about frozen . . . anything . . . accept maybe adult beverages.
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It may not be enough to burst a hose, but it might be enough to damage a seacock. Just because the damage is relatively minor, doesn't mean it won't sink the boat with little warning come spring time.
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I can not conceive of any boat making enough condensation within a hose to make it burst from freezing. It isn't going to happen.
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Still not sure how leaving it in really makes a difference in the amount of condensation which could form unless you leave the system charged throughout the winter which is an impracticality. Arguably, a partially full system (which is what you get by simply filling the lines) provides more water vapor to condense without significantly lowering the volume of free space available compared with an essentaily emply system. The engineer in me working over-the-top here...
Even if condensation formed, it would be insufficient to fill the lines to the point that freezing could damage anything.
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[quote=sailingdog;203397]It may not be enough to burst a hose, but it might be enough to damage a seacock. Just because the damage is relatively minor, doesn't mean it won't sink the boat with little warning come spring time.QUOTE]

If it is cold enough to freeze there is a 90% chance that the boat isn't even in the water. In New Jersey that number is maybe 99% chance of the boat not being wintered in the water. If the boat is in the water in the winter, it is most likely being lived on and heated. So there should be no chance of sinking a boat. In addiction I still have a hard time conceiving of even a 2 ft hose filling with enough condensation to burst a hose or a seacock.
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Move to Texas. You can sail and not worry about frozen . . . anything . . ..

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wellll....if all else fails, read what it says on the container...I'm sure it mentions whether to leave it in or not.
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wellll....if all else fails, read what it says on the container...I'm sure it mentions whether to leave it in or not.

Not always obvious if the container directions are written by engineers or lawyers - the distinction can be important.

Given this stuff expands as temp decreases, it occurs to me a full system can be more problemmatic for that reason alone
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Not always obvious if the container directions are written by engineers or lawyers - the distinction can be important.

Given this stuff expands as temp decreases, it occurs to me a full system can be more problemmatic for that reason alone
....huh???????????????????
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Winterizing the boat yesterday. Drained the water tanks and poured the Pink Anti-Freze in and pumped through the lines. What's the general consensus in leaving the stuff in the lines versus pumping it out of the lines and closing everything up and leaving the lines essentially unfilled except for residual pink anti-freeze?

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Google: Fresh Water Antifreeze/Potable water antifreeze/Marine & RV antifreeze..etc. lots of info...
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....huh???????????????????

apparently something I said?
can you be a little more specific
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