Running Rigging Layouts?

Bermuda30 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007

Hello all,

Was wondering if some here might be up to posting pics and maybe a small explanation of how their running rigging is laid out. For example, do you lead all lines to the cockpit, or leave halyards, ect at the mast? I am running through different variations on how to re-rig my boat (Grampian 26). Sailing will be primarily single-handed, or with small crew. I would like to have all lines led through turning blocks aft to the cockpit, but have heard several good arguments for both sides. Anyway, thanks for any input anyone has!

Gary M · #2 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007

I have just finalized how I am going to set mine up. I just installed new Garhauser quad halyard organizers on each side. I am in the process of going to all rope halyards.
I am eliminating the existing pole topping lift and using the spare jib halyard for it. I have Lewmar triple D2 halyard clutches on each side of the cabin. If you are single handed my opinion you definitely want most everything lead aft.
I will have the main and primary jib halyard and the main cunningham on the port side in the clutch. The vang will come down that side to a cam cleat at the aft lip of the cabin.

On the starboard side I will have the spinnaker halyard, the main outhaul then the outboard reef in the clutches. I have the pole topping lift in a cam cleat at the aft lip of the cabin and the pole down in a cam cleat on the side of the cabin. For the inboard reef point when I need it I will use the cunningham line, rerouting it is the only thing I will have to leave the cockpit for. Normally I race with a full crew but I want to start some double handed and single handed racing so I want every thing very handy.

If I was Alex I would photo shop a pretty picture but I am not that talented

Hope you can follow this description.

Gary

tdw · #3 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007

I still prefer having most of my controls on the mast although I do want to bring the vang line back to the cockpit. I'm in two minds about the main halyard and reefing lines as I like to be at the mast as I raise the sail and with my setup I still need to go forward to drop the main cringle onto the horn when I reef.

Also, cos I don't like the lines beating against the sail I bring my topping lift and lazy jack lines forward to the mast once the main is up. Ergo there is not much point in having topping lift brought back to cockpit either.

Giulietta · #4 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007

Bermuda here are a few photos of a boat that has ALL the lines coming to the cockpit.

This boat has a slightly complicated arrangment but if you look carefully you will understand it.

It has:

2 halyards for the main
2 halyards for the spi
2 halyards for the genoa
1 boom jack (no vang)
1 reef
1 outhaul
1 cuningham
1 extra Cuningham (for emergency)
2 Roler lines (continuous line so you have 2 lines)
2 spi uphauls
2 spidownhauls
2 spi pole lines
2 genoa track lines
2 genoa sheets
2 main sail sheets
1 backstay at the rear
2 Barber haulers for the spi
etc.

The boat in the photos has a rather expensive arrangment due to the nature of the blocks and gear used, but it serves the purpose of giving you an idea of what can be done.

you will need several blocks at the mast, don't use the ones in the photo they're expensive, use regular blocks with springs to keep them upright.
You may attach them to the mast collar ot to the cabin top with respective becking plates underneath. Sometimes, if you have a keel stepped mast you will require the installation of a rod, inside the cabin, to prevent the cabin from "curling" up caused by tension in the mast blocks. You will also need organizers. They are the black "rulers" you see laying down on the cabin top to redirect the lines aft

Mast foot blocks and organizers

You will need clutches as above and cam cleats to hold and secure the lines

The photo above shows that in this case there are two sets of deck organizers to distribute load better

Here above a front view of the arrangment

And a rear view

If you have more questions I can draw a "map" of the lines for you.

tdw · #5 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007

Alex,
Irrespective of what I said about Raven, your setup is quite superb.

Question

What do you mean "boom jack no vang" ?

Hartley18 · #6 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007

And.. does your vang have enough purchase?? I would have expected a few more blocks than there are.

CapnHand · #7 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdw

Also, cos I don't like the lines beating against the sail I bring my topping lift and lazy jack lines forward to the mast once the main is up. Ergo there is not much point in having topping lift brought back to cockpit either.

All my lines come back to the cockpit, much as GaryM described. It makes sailing short / single handed easier.

I don't have lazyjack lines rigged, but I'm considering this for when the boat is back in the water. I would like to be able to be able to retract the lazyjack lines to the mast for the same reason as tdw. Is there a way to run them so I can do this from the cockpit?

sailingdog · #8 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007

We generally call Giu's boat the Floating Spaghetti Monster...

PBzeer · #9 (**permalink**) 10-25-2007

CapnHand - since the only time you really need to mess with the lazy jacks underway is to tighten them for dropping the sail, I don't lead mine aft. Loosening them and tying them out of the way you can do while not underway.

tdw · #10 (**permalink**) 10-25-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapnHand

All my lines come back to the cockpit, much as GaryM described. It makes sailing short / single handed easier.

I don't have lazyjack lines rigged, but I'm considering this for when the boat is back in the water. I would like to be able to be able to retract the lazyjack lines to the mast for the same reason as tdw. Is there a way to run them so I can do this from the cockpit?

PB is right. (very right in fact but that's another thread, hee hee)

I doubt that its feasible, at least without an awful lot of trouble.

The way we do it is .......Raise the main. Then slacken off the topping lift and lazy jacks. Bring topping lift forward and hook under the horn, tighten. Then do the same for the lazy jacks. When you get back, release jacks and topping lift , re tension and drop the sail. Works for us.

I guess for the lazy jacks you could have a couple of lines rigged to the furthest aft jack, through a deck block and back to the cockpit but I still think it would be more trouble than its worth.