We're getting hosed

[geary126]

So, I've got an m3-20. apparently, I need a new lift (fuel) pump and a heat exchanger. Anybody have thoughts?

btw, props to the Captain for the treasures in the thread. And the thread.

[mawbark51]

Is there a location - web based - that provides the marine engine's original manufacturer make and model before it was marinized?

[chucklesR]

Westerbeke full pump, 154.00 -
8 weeks for a tech - and the engine was 2 weeks old (and I'd have had to wait for authorization before the 8 weeks started if I wanted them to pay for the warrantied repair).
AutoZone 25 gph 12v pump fitting in the exact same place - 29.95, time to replace, 30 minutes.

ZEPHYR Fuel polisher 575 -
piece of plywood, another autozone pump, filters, hoses and brass fittings (marine grade, hardware store) -125.

Pays to look around
Props to CapnHand well deserved.

[Valiente]

I have a Westerbeke W-52 I'm having "looked at" by a non-marine diesel rebuilder this winter. Any idea if there's a tractor/non-marine equivalent? (I have been led to consider that it's a marinized Mazda 2.5 litre block).

As I will be replacing the FW pump, the heat exchanger and various other bits and pieces (if the originals work, they become the "spares"), I would LOVE to avoid buying Gouge-o-Rama priced "official" stuff, because it's just a pure rip-off.

[eherlihy]

This is a GREAT thread...

Lots of cross reference info on Westerbreak, and some on Universal. How about (dare I say this) Yanmar? Is all their stuff unique to Yanmar?

[RXBOT]

Don,t think it's related to a mazda.Your engine is134.8 cubic inches I believe.Thats = 2209 cubic centimeters,a far cry from 2and1/2 litres. Interesting though mazda does make a diesel 2.5 litre licenced to perkins.

[xort]

Could sailnet put together a database? Perhaps it has to be set up where we input the info. Similar to active captain.

[Valiente]

Originally Posted by RXBOT

Don,t think it's related to a mazda.Your engine is134.8 cubic inches I believe.Thats = 2209 cubic centimeters,a far cry from 2and1/2 litres. Interesting though mazda does make a diesel 2.5 litre licenced to perkins.

2209 cc is 2209 ml, which is 2.2 litres. Not such a far cry.

I'll check out Mazda.

[HoffaLives]

What's really helped is the web. Research is so much easier. I also think talking to the diesel rebuild boys would be a good source to find out who makes the engine in your boat. Marine rebuilders go to marine suppliers, but Fuel Injection places/truck diesel rebuilders don't bother, and they'll have source lists for parts.

I would like to find out the source for the exchangers that Westerbeke uses.

As for alternators, forget the marinised ones (unless you are using a gas engine). One engineer claims that the only real difference from the auto ones is a light epoxy coating on the windings to reduce corrosion. I have a Ford 100 amp truck alternator on my engine that I bought for $230.00, and I paid way too much (but we were on an island at the time and I knew I'd be gouged). Replacement diodes are like 20 bucks, a few dollars for brushes.

BTW, as for lift pumps, I found one for this engine for about $25.00! and I just sourced new injectors for $49.00 each, which is a great price as they are specific to this ONE engine.


As for the westerbeke W30, the block was used in the following vehicles:

BMC - NEWAGE (MARINE) 1.5 1489cc

NUFFIELD TRACTOR 4/25 & 154 1.5 1968-80

LEYLAND TRACTOR 154 Eng 15T 1968-80

AUSTIN A60 1.5 1962-69
MORRIS OXFORD 1.5 1962-71
MORRIS ITAL & MARINA 1.5 1974-84
AUSTIN/MORRIS JB,J2 & J4 Vans 1.5 1961-74
AUSTIN MORRIS JU-250 1.6 1967-74

Might be hard sourcing the car parts, but people hang onto tractors. There are several outfits that still handle these parts, even in the US.

[HoffaLives]

Originally Posted by eherlihy

This is a GREAT thread...

Lots of cross reference info on Westerbreak, and some on Universal. How about (dare I say this) Yanmar? Is all their stuff unique to Yanmar?

Yanmar is an engine manufacturer, but that doesn't mean that they don't outsource many of their parts.