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post #11 of 17 Old 11-02-2007
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Wild guess:
Dinghy cost: 150$
Protective paint cost: 200$


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I did build one of glass.. was looking at the fatty knees but the price was so high, I decided to build one myself.. I started with what you might call a nutshell, and built a mold off the boat, then laid up the ding.. I built it a little heaver than I had to and I'm still modifying the little boat after a few years of service..
The only time you get into "copyright" problems is when you go into business selling boat you made... If you keep it for yourself, theres no problem... I will admit, I sold the mold to another guy who made his own ding.. and I think he then sold the mold to someone else.. What I made off the mold, paid for the material I built the ding out of...
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Actually, copyright infringment doesn't require the sale of the infringing material, at least in the United States. If this were no the case, then you could borrow a DVD from the library and legally copy it for your own use... which is illegal.

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I did build one of glass.. was looking at the fatty knees but the price was so high, I decided to build one myself.. I started with what you might call a nutshell, and built a mold off the boat, then laid up the ding.. I built it a little heaver than I had to and I'm still modifying the little boat after a few years of service..
The only time you get into "copyright" problems is when you go into business selling boat you made... If you keep it for yourself, theres no problem... I will admit, I sold the mold to another guy who made his own ding.. and I think he then sold the mold to someone else.. What I made off the mold, paid for the material I built the ding out of...

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Well, at the moment the little Sandpiper will rest through the winter in my garage. Hopefully next spring she'll stay tied up in the water beneath my dock in the shade. If I have bottom paint left over after doing my sailboat in the spring, I'll use it up on the dink.

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I have a Sandpiper and they need a keel of some kind to give them some directional control when rowing. You could add a small keel or skeg and that would defeat the patent.

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Actually, copyright infringment doesn't require the sale of the infringing material, at least in the United States. If this were no the case, then you could borrow a DVD from the library and legally copy it for your own use... which is illegal.
I am not a lawyer but I did stay in an unlicensed copy of a Holiday Inn Express hotel last night, so here's my take: a boat hull would be covered under Title 17, Circular 92, Chapter 13 of the United States Code.

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(a) Acts of Infringement. — Except as provided in subsection (b), it shall be infringement of the exclusive rights in a design protected under this chapter for any person, without the consent of the owner of the design, within the United States and during the term of such protection, to —

(1) make, have made, or import, for sale or for use in trade, any infringing article as defined in subsection (e); or

(2) sell or distribute for sale or for use in trade any such infringing article.

U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Law: Chapter 13
So if you don't produce it for sale or "for use in trade," and you don't sell it, it's not infringement.

Regarding "use in trade," per The People's Law Dictionary by Gerald and Kathleen Hill:

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1) n. a business or occupation for profit, particularly in retail or wholesale sales or requiring special mechanical skill. 2) v. to exchange one thing for another, which includes money for goods, goods for goods and favors for goods or money.

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So, again, I'm not a lawyer, certainly not anyone here's lawyer and I shouldn't be trusted with heavy machinery, sharp knives or non-safety scissors but it seems like you'd probably be in the clear to copy the design of a boat hull for purely personal use.

Edit: "in the clear" as far as copyright infringement goes. A boat hull could possibly be covered by a design patent or a regular patent as well. It would probably be a good idea to consult a lawyer if anyone is worried about any of this.

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Re: Sandpiper 8 Dinghy

I am on my second one. The ABS doese break fown. 1 or 2 seasons. I am looking for a repair material. So far nothing permanent.
I like mine. Tows and rows great
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