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Old 11-09-2007
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Keep in mind that this is a first attempt at this kind of repair for me but here's what I did.

Got the MAS epoxies repair kit. It came with a bottle of Flag Resin, Medium Hardener, some mixing cups, some mixing sticks. I also got some microballoons(dark brown powder used for thickening, I think also refered to as a filler) The micro balloons don't come in the kit.

For my small repair, the kit was kinda neat because the amounts or everything are fairly small and this stuff is NOT cheap.

Where the small chip was, I put a decent amount of pressure in the area just immediately around it with the back of a screwdriver. The areas to each side of the chip crumbled away in the gelcoat, everything else seemed pretty solid.

I used simple green and water to clean the site. (MAS says not to use Acetone). I think you can use alcohol as well.

Then I used some course sandpaper to sand/grind the area out a bit.

For my small repair I put 1/2 oz of resin into the mixing cup. Then I added 1/4 oz hardner to the same cup (supposed to be 2 parts resin to 1 part hardner). This gave me more than enough to cover the site.

As I was mixing these together I began to add the microballoons (thickening agent) You are supposed to stir the mixture for at least 2 minutes. I ended up adding quite a bit of thickner. I THINK what you are looking for is a peanut butter type consistency. What I ended up with was a warm peanut butter consistency (just slightly runny)......so maybe I should of added more.

Anyway I used the stick and just spread the paste into the site and cleaned up around it.

I'll let you know in a couple days how it turned out. Hopefully just to fair it into shape with some sandpaper and then reapply some gelcoat over it. That's the plan anyway......we'll see what happens
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You'd be surprised at how much thickening agent is needed to make the epoxy the consistency of peanut butter... more than most people think. Generally, the warmer the temperature, the thicker the consistency of the epoxy has to be to prevent it from running/sagging/dripping.

Love to see how it turned out for you. BTW, there is a nice article on using Gelcoat over epoxy at the west systems website. You can read it here.
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I am heading to the boat tommorrow to check out the epoxy job and hopefully get it ready for gel coating.

I was at West Marine and picked up some Evercoat Gelcoat Scratch Patch. it comes in a little white tube.

Is anybody familiar with this??

thanks for the help,
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It'd be good to hear how it went. Glad to help. I've used the Evercoat gelcoat repair kits, but not that particular one.
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I saw the Evercoat gelcoat repair kit but it seemed like more than I needed.

Now that I have epoxied back up to the level of the rest of the gelcoat I just need to put a very thin gelcoat on top I think?

This Evercoat Gelcoat Scratch Patch that I have is recommended for filling in scratches and small chips as a one step process (the gelcoat repair kit has a 2 part process, resin + hardner).

The Gelcoat Scratch Patch is also 1/3 of the price of the regular gelcoat repair kit.

We'll see, its a learning process.

I'll let you all know how it goes.

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I would sand the epoxy down a bit... then use the gelcoat.
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Well I went back today and got a little closer to finishing this little project......closer but not finished

Here's a couple of pics. The first is of the epoxy before I placed the Evercoat Gelcoat Scratch Patch on it and the second pic is about 2 hours after I applied the gelcoat scratch patch.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...y/_MG_5899.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...y/_MG_5902.jpg

It was still a little soft when i left so I am hoping it will harden up in a few days so I can buff it down and make it look pretty

As you can see I have to figure out a way to clean all that epoxy out of the non skid (any recommendations???)

It's been a learning experience and I appreciate all the help.

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Looks good. As for the epoxy... using a plastic scraper sometimes works well, especially if the non-skid was waxed prior to having the epoxy spill on it.
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