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Yeah . . . eight rungs needed at the stern ladder.

I'd be very concerned with fasteners subjected to excessive shear in a horizontal installation . . . but I'm a big guy. Make certain you use through-bolts with large stainless washers as backing plates.
Ah, I see you're point. Do they just provide screws to install those? I was planning on using much larger hardware. I'll be sure to include backing plates as well. Thanks.
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I meant to say the fasteners are weaker when they are in a horizontal installation, since the bolt will be 1/4" to 3/8" diameter max. The ladder's mounting plate is vertical.
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Another point to consider before purchase -- Best to get a ladder which has flat surfaces to step on - Starboard is better than wood because it needs no varnish. I may be a "Tenderfoot" but round steel ladder rungs hurt when I have been swimming and am shoeless.
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I bought mine at West Marine, and had it modified to reduce weight.

It is also one of the few that you can completely remove from the boat, and I have two fast release pins as axis. I drilled a hole to release water when upside down. I am very happy, its strong and the steps are ergonomic. Highly recommended.



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For a toe-rail mounted ladder, I like this one from Mystic Marine Stainless (except they aren't cheap$$):

http://www.mysticstainless.com/page2.html
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Way too complicated and way too expensive. Simpler is generally better, especially in a saltwater environment.
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Very nice JP, and I agree with SD that simple is best.

However, if you've got the means to have one custom fabricated - why not go all out? A fellow Nauticater commissioned Nauticat Yachts to build this fully integrated beauty:








I suppose a flip-down ladder could be attached to the bottom, for water egress.
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One more observation on ladders.... We have a rather large social group of boating friends, and often spend weekends with several boats rafted up together.

Any of the side mounted ladders are useless in that case. But a transom mounted ladder is always accessible for swimming & dinghy access.

On a safety point.. a friend and his wife were moored at a marina last winter, and he was on deck early in the morning, slipped on some frost and fell overboard. His wife, below, did not hear him fall, nor his initial calls for help. He was unable to climb the dock (the marina was unequipped with safety ladders) and was quickly getting cold. His wife finally heard him, lowered their ladder and recovered him. As a result they routinely lower their ladder when moored and aboard. Alternatively a method can be devised so that someone in the water already can lower the ladder from there.
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Expensive yes, but I'm not sure it's too complicated. I do like the sleeves that cover the hinged portions -- to protect fingers and toes from getting pinched.

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That is really cool! I have a feeling that cost a bit more than even your ladder from West Marine!

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Good point about the raft-up issue. And yes, a safety line for unexpected swimmers is a good idea. At anchor, we keep our ladder half-deployed with a dangling line that swimmers can use to extend it the remainder of the way. I believe someone sells an emergency rope ladder in a mountable bag explicitly for that purpose (including going overboard while underway).
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BTW, the swim ladder on my boat is reachable from the water... much like the one on Giu's boat.
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