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I need to replace all seven batteries in a new to us boat. It currently has six 6 volt and one 4D. I want to switch to AGM's after reading all the discussion here on Sailnet. Haven't found too many sources(with prices) by searching the internet, and I'm not sure what the freight is going to be on them. I am in Seattle area, any advice appreciated.

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http://www.lifelinebatteries.com/ has distributor info, with a few in your area. I looked at Lifeline, but for my modest needs I went with a single Optima gel type. Got with from from a local auto store. Shipping will be expensive
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Due to the weight, you are probably better off buying them locally. Each 6V AGM is about 70 lbs. and an 8D is about 130 lbs. I would check to see who the local Lifeline battery distributor is... and if you can, purchase directly from them.
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As others have pointed out, these are heavy and shipping is expensive, so this might be one of those instances where the local shops are your best source. When we installed Lifeline AGMs a few years back, the chandlery at our marina was able to procure them at a very competititve price. They arrived via their usual delivery truck, so there was no extra shippng cost.
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I got mine at Battery Warehouse. The folks at the store near me are terrific. I now have 2 AGM batteries in my boat and another pair in my antique car. They're working out great for me.
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Thanks all, I saw that Fisheries Supply is the local rep., they usually aren't cheap though so wanted to check out options first. Does anybody have experience with the Seavolt AGM's that West M sells? They have an 18 mo. guarantee with 5 yr prorated and price per amp hour is a lot less than prices I have seen on Lifelines.

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I also installed the WM AGM's on our previous boat. I vaguely recall that they were EastPenn batteries rebranded as WM SeaVolt. We got good service from them, but that installation was part of an electrical upgrade that included a Balmar alternator and smart regulator package, as well as a smart charger. I think almost any batteries will do well when they are babied with that kind of treatment.

We sold that boat before we could complete a long-term endurance test on the batteries. But I will say that it is very convenient to walk into WM and walk out with the batteries in hand. By the way, WM used to have (and may still) an outfitting discount (10%?) for owners of newly purchased boats, which might be worth inquiring about in your case.
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NO, NO, NO!

Anyone wanting Lifelines should PM me (unless it gets rediculous). Shipping is not that bad on them (I paid $120 for 4-4D Lifelines from California to Texas), at least when I bought them. I had NO sales tax and got them VASTLY cheaper than I could have at the store.

Cam has the East Penn's and has not had any problems with them. However, no offense, but they are not Lifelines. Plus the tax and West prices and you are better getting them from Lifeline. Lifelines are rated at over 1000 50% discharges. Make sure you are comparing apple to apples.

I am NOT in any way a dealer for Lifeline. I get nothing out of this. I also do not believe Sailnet sells batteries. I checked first. I do not believe there is any conflict of interest. I simply try and help out fellow sailnetters. I want to make that clear. I get sailnetters breaks because I send them a lot of business.

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I also installed the WM AGM's on our previous boat. I vaguely recall that they were EastPenn batteries rebranded as WM SeaVolt. We got good service from them, but that installation was part of an electrical upgrade that included a Balmar alternator and smart regulator package, as well as a smart charger. I think almost any batteries will do well when they are babied with that kind of treatment.

I think you've hit on a critical point: The stuff surrounding the batteries in terms of charging, equalization and monitoring, plus the habits of the owner in being vigilant about cycling, will supercede in most cases any considerations about make and model. A friend of mine went with East Penn 8Ds because of price and because they are easily accessible under his cabin sole. He spent more than most on properly crimped and heavily gauged cabling, because his idea...and I think it's a sound one...is that massive battery capacity is no excuse to just forget the things, and that any halfway decent battery can, with the right practices, give service for a long time.

Some people seem to screw up their banks in three years, others have 10 year old Trojans still cycling away. Is it due to quality of the battery or ignorance of the owners in the way they treat this renewable...but not infinite...resource?
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Agree with CD to a point. The Lifelines are worth the extra money, again to a point. When I bought new batteries 3 years ago I bought East Penn AGM's and have had very good service from them. I fully expect to get my money's worth in terms of service life out of them and then may buy Lifelines the next time.
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