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Zanshin, to find a place you can trust you will pay top dollar. You will be able to recognize the place when you see mirror-finished hulls around the paint building--and the paint building will be a building, or at least a large fully closed shed, because unless it is temperature and humidity controlled and fully enclosed, they can't ensure a 100% job.

The workers will be wearing respirators with positive airflow, or bunny suits. And, the prices are gonna hurt--but the shops that do work outdoors and just deal with things, are never going to give you more than a 95% job.

With any paint or ink, red does fade fastest in high UV, including sunlight. You'll want to make sure you use whatever UV protectant (aka "our special protectant never wax" haha) is available for it. And of course, once you paint you must always repaint, typically in ten years. Once you scuff any color--there's a prominent white scuff showing, where plain boring white wouldn't show it as badly. And the guys are right about those beautiful dark blue colors--dark colors make a measurable difference in temperature in the boat in the tropics.

How durable the job is, also will depend on how thick the shop throws the coating. Again, I'd guess the guys in the bunny suits probably have more training and more control over how thick the coating is--because "too thick" is probably as bad as "too thin".

Tell 'em you want to shave in the reflection from the boat, and if they don't invite you to look at three other hulls they've done right there in the yard or area that have a mirror finish--you'll know you are compromising.
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Halekai...I've said it before...I really think that color looks beautiful on a nice boat like yours. What is it actually called?
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It's called Stars & Stripes Blue. It's one of the semi custom colors and is not currently on the color charts.


P.S. Many shops still work with Imron but Awlcraft 2000 is Akzo's version of Imron. Imron and AwlCraft 2000 are both acrylic LPU's, with very smilar properties, vs. AwlGrip which is a polyester LPU. Imron and Awlcraft 2000 can be buffed and repaired much more easily than polyester LPU's can and thus can and do last longer if properly cared for. Polyester LPU's are not designed to be buffed...
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Stars and Stripes Blue?!

A provincial colonial might think that would be the deep flag blue of the "Stars and Stripes" flag...I wonder how the heck THAT color paint got THAT name attached to it.

It's a beautiful color, I just don't figure it is used on anything that has stars and stripes. More like what the paint companies call "federal blue" in house paint, no?
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HS...apparently it is named for the color used on a rather famous Stars& Stripes sailboat!
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I belive it was once called "Gunsmoke Blue", but was changed ala Cam's post above.
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Cam is once again correct. The color was custom mixed & created for the Connor / Cup challenge boat USA-55. Since that time the color has become somewhat more popular even though it's not on the Akzo (parent company of AwlGrip) color charts..

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Think about FLAGG BLUE!
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Well from someone who had that color..

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Been there done that NEVER again! Flag Blue shows everything and although it's a very beautiful color, keeping it clean and dried salt free, is next to impossible. Lighter colors don't show the dried salt or scratches nearly as bad a darker colors and if you're down south darker colors are a no, no anyway...
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Even dirty, in my opinion, dark blue is still the best looking color followed closely by dark green or any dark color.
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awlgrip stars and stripes blue

Hello all: new to this forum but have been lurking for a while, and couldn't resist posting about this awlgrip color. I had liked it for a while, but was concerned about it being a little dark, and therefore hot, so when I (finally ) painted the boat I had spent half my life building, I added 2 quarts of arctic white for every gallon of stars and stripes blue, and came up with a color which is quite unique, and which varies a lot depending on the light and the color of the water around it. People seem to like it; and the boat remains quite cool, even in 90 plus degree July weather. I don't find it too hard to keep clean. Won't let me post a link because I don't have enough posts, but pictures can be seen on the web site, sv-restless.com. Hope this helps, Bob
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