Unknown diesel engine - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 26 Old 01-03-2008 Thread Starter
Sailed it!
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mandeville, LAf
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Unknown diesel engine

I have come across a boat with a diesel engine, but I can't find any information on the engine. The ID plate reads Shuangniao Diesel Engine. Model 280WAC. Hangzhou General Diesel Works, The Peoples Republic of China. It also has other Japanese letters inscribed that, unfortunately, I can't read. I did find some information on the internet about the 280WAC and emailed the company, but did not receive a response.

Does anyone have any information on this engine?
tcase10 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 26 Old 01-03-2008
Senior Member
 
NOLAsailing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mandeville, LA
Posts: 504
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Is this boat in Mandeville, LA? I've only seen one and I can't imagine there's another in a sailboat somewhere. I'm just leaving the office, so I'll have more to say when I get home. If you read this in the meantime, please let me know if it's in Mandeville - I'm dying to hear.

-Jason

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
NOLAsailing is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 26 Old 01-03-2008
Telstar 28
 
sailingdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 14
         
You might want to post a photo of the engine in question. See this post for instructions.

Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
sailingdog is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 26 Old 01-03-2008 Thread Starter
Sailed it!
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mandeville, LAf
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
NOLASailing, the boat is in Mandeville, LA. I have seen your boat around. I have a catalina 22 at the same marina. When did you see this boat? Can you tell me anything about the engine or boat?

Sailingdog, here is the link to photos.
tcase10 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 26 Old 01-03-2008 Thread Starter
Sailed it!
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mandeville, LAf
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
It looks like the link to photobucket did not work. I will try again.

Last edited by tcase10; 01-03-2008 at 10:10 PM.
tcase10 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 26 Old 01-03-2008 Thread Starter
Sailed it!
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mandeville, LAf
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Hey NOLAsailing, here is another post I started. I am just trying to find information about the boat. Bombay Clipper 31
tcase10 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 26 Old 01-04-2008
Senior Member
 
NOLAsailing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mandeville, LA
Posts: 504
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Too funny - I didn't think there could be two Shuangniao diesels out there. I saw this motor a few months ago when the owner was having an overheating problem. It was tracked down to a failed impeller and the owner had a heck of a time finding a replacement. In fact, he had to get close enough by modifying the impeller and making an extra thick gasket.

It was at this time that I tried finding some information about this motor.

And there's the rub. Parts for this engine are going to be a nightmare. If you can't find a suitable replacement that's "close enough," then you'll have to rig something. China wasn't exporting a bunch of marine diesels in the seventies. My personal hunch is that whoever owned this boat found himself needing a repower and somehow located and marinized an old Chinese diesel tractor motor.

This particular motor does emit a lot of black smoke, so there's an issue with fuel delivery. Fixing that may be as easy as having the injectors cleaned or quite difficult, depending on what the source of the problem is. Frankly, the motor is the biggest challenge for this boat. If you buy the boat, I would go into it expecting to replace the motor at some point down the line, as when it has a major failure, it is likely to be terminal given it's uniqueness - not that that should be a deal killer if you like the boat.

I don't know much about the pedigree of the boat, but from what I can observe it is quite heavily constructed. It has a fair amount of sheer and it probably very dry. It also has pretty nice lines which, to me, isn't as obvious in the slip. The first time I saw it head out, I was actually a little surprised when I saw the whole boat in profile. It looks, to me, a lot like a bigger Island Packet 27. The interior layout is interesting and, when cleaned up, would probably be very comfortable.

The owners are extremely nice people - very, very pleasant. They've also made the trek in from Texas quite a bit to check on the boat and spend weekends aboard. It has not sat neglected, though it was not sailed much. I don't think the owners had much sailing experience at all - they would usually just unfurl the jib and cruise a little bit near the bayou before returning to the slip.

I'll host the photos on my site so everyone else can see them.

By the way, if I'm on my boat, please come introduce yourself. It would be great to meet you in person. I am bringing the boat to the southshore tomorrow morning for some work, but it should be back in about six weeks. If you want to come along for some racing, we've always got room.

-Jason

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by NOLAsailing; 01-04-2008 at 02:37 AM.
NOLAsailing is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 26 Old 01-04-2008
Senior Member
 
NOLAsailing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mandeville, LA
Posts: 504
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Here are the photos of the motor:




-Jason

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
NOLAsailing is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 26 Old 01-04-2008
Senior Member
 
Valiente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,491
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 11
   
What a lovely anchor.
Valiente is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 26 Old 01-04-2008
Telstar 28
 
sailingdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 14
         
Valiente-

Be nice...they could say that about Alchemy, with a few judiciously placed holes.

Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
sailingdog is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Runaway Diesel Engine Ben Hilke Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 07-19-2004 08:00 PM
Surveying a Diesel Engine Tom Wood Buying a Boat Articles 0 01-26-2003 07:00 PM
Surveying a Diesel Engine Tom Wood Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 01-26-2003 07:00 PM
Diesel Maintenance Mark Matthews Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 06-10-2002 08:00 PM
Replacing the Diesel Engine Sue & Larry Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 06-12-2000 08:00 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome