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There is also the old low-tech version, handy for many round-the-boat tasks.

Sail Delmarva: Soft Shackles, Stropes, and Square Riggers

The real advantage of any "soft-shackle" in my expereince is that they can't scratch gel coat and don't jam like a knot.

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If you make them like the video, they are too short to fit around a pair of jib sheets. I think the ones in the video must be for replacing jib hanks where they are just going around a forestay and a bolt rope. I made a calculator for calculating the length of line and the various markers that might be of interest. It is opposite the second picture on this site Soft Shackles

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Allen: great site, the calculator will be quite useful! Is there an easy way to change the numbers for different diameter line?

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Here's a few I whipped up today.. Used Colligo's video.
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Here's a few I whipped up today.. Used Colligo's video.
They look good. However Allen is correct that they're a bit small for most purposes other than maybe hanks... what do you plan to use them for?

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They look good. However Allen is correct that they're a bit small for most purposes other than maybe hanks... what do you plan to use them for?
Is there any structural reason they cannot be any length?

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One possible drawback of the soft shackle, if you use your spinnaker pole downwind on your headsail.

If you put eye splices into your sheets and connect them with a soft shackle they can easily become jammed in the jaws. Naturally enough this will depend on the relative size of your sheets the eye is much more likely to get caught up in the pole jaws, where a bowline creates a much larger obstruction.

I noticed this on a boat we crewed on during a few twilights this year.

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Is there any structural reason they cannot be any length?
Not to my knowledge... just a matter of convenience. The ones in the Colligo video come out actually quite small.

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If you put eye splices into your sheets and connect them with a soft shackle they can easily become jammed in the jaws.
Good point. This would especially be a problem on my pole, I think, because of the shape of the jaws. I wonder if there's something one could fit over the sheet between jaws. A large wooden bead would do, but this defeats at least one of the purposes of a soft shackle if you want to use the same sheets in stronger winds without a pole.

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They look good. However Allen is correct that they're a bit small for most purposes other than maybe hanks... what do you plan to use them for?
No plan on where to use them yet. Just wanted to learn how to make them. The inside diameter of the larger ones in the pic is about 1"3/4.

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No plan on where to use them yet. Just wanted to learn how to make them. The inside diameter of the larger ones in the pic is about 1"3/4.
They look the perfect size to connect sheets to the clew of a jib. I'm going to order that stuff tomorrow and practice making some. Not sure where I'm going to use them, but use them I will.

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Anyone have advice on making the stopper knot? I've looked at the video, but have a hard time picturing it when the 2 lines are parallel instead of coming at each other. Any advice?

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