Max Anchor Stowage

Lucky Jack · #1 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

Fellow Sailors,

I am in the process of fitting out a new Caliber 40 and have selected both ROCNA and Max anchors. The Max anchor appears to have a few issues fitting well into the bow roller assembly. It seems that when it's retracted to the first bend in the shank, a good bit of anchor remains extended and relatively unsecured. When the anchor is cranked in all the way, it rises up and tends to inhibit the furling mechanism. Does anyone have some experience stowing the Max in a roller, or could anyone offer some advice feedback for remediation? Thanks in advance.

camaraderie · #2 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

Perhaps you need a different bow roller:
http://www.creativemarine.com/newpro.../bowroller.htm

sailingdog · #3 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

Good point Cam... most bow rollers are best suited for only certain types of anchors. One that works well for a Bruce may not be well suited for a Rocna.

BTW, that installation in the second photo is one I wouldn't recommend, since the roller is only supported by the wood and the forces on a bow roller are likely to break something of that design, especially since they've weakened the wood by drilling through it a few inches aft of the base of the roller.

Montyedge—

Which anchor is your bower? That is the one you should leave sitting on the bow roller. The other should be stowed elsewhere IMHO.

labatt · #4 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

SD - You have a Rocna, right? I'm assuming by your post that you're stating that a roller for a Bruce or Delta IS different for the Rocna? I was thinking of getting a Rocna as my primary, but I have no interest in replacing my bow roller.

sailingdog · #5 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

Labatt-

It depends on the design of the anchor roller. The roller I am using is this one:

While it wasn't designed for a Rocna, it works quite well. It really depends on the specific roller you have. Most of the ones that work for a Delta or such will work with a Rocna.

The problem with the Max anchor is the strange stock design on the anchor, which isn't the case with a Rocna.

I haven't seen the bow roller on your boat, but yours should probably be fine with the Rocna, which seems to fit on traditional bow rollers that fit a Delta or CQR quite well.

labatt · #6 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

Here's my roller with a Bruce in it... it now has a Delta, which lines up perfectly to pin to the roller when stored. Not knowing the shank shape of the Rocna, any thoughts?

Maine Sail · #7 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

I'm perhaps, other than you, one of the few sailors who actually owns both a Super Max and a Rocna.

From a guy who has used, and owns, both I can honestly just say; stick the Super Max in the bilge cause you won't need it! The Rocna is a superior product in both setting, re-setting and holding in my experience. Once the max is set it works fine but getting it to set and re-set is certainly not a strong point of the Max anchor when compared to the Rocna. After diving on it numerous times I'd find it usually only half dug in and laying on it's side just like the CQR likes to do.

You have a great anchor, the Rocna, stick it on the bow and watch the Max grow dust in the bilge that way you won't need to worry about a new anchor roller. The Rocna fits fine in my CQR roller!

sailingdog · #8 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

The shank on the Rocna is fairly deep, much more so than the Bruce you've got on in this photo. The reason I think is due to the incredible holding power of the Rocna. You'll definitely have to remove the forward pin. It might squeak under that top pin, but it depends a bit on whether you're planning on getting the 20 kg or 25 kg Rocna.

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Originally Posted by labatt

Here's my roller with a Bruce in it... it now has a Delta, which lines up perfectly to pin to the roller when stored. Not knowing the shank shape of the Rocna, any thoughts?

Maine Sail · #9 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

Ask & ye shall receive! Luckily I have my Rocna and Supermax at home.. Here's some measurements from my Rocna 15kg/33lb. shank.

Roller end of shank:

First bend:

Shank length:

Rocna & Super Max profiles:

Lucky Jack · #10 (**permalink**) 01-15-2008

Wow. You gents really came through with some great stuff.

My plan involves the ROCNA as my primary and the Max as the secondary anchor. The caliber is fitted with a reinforced bow pulpit and two roller assemblies. One is fed from the windlass gypsy and t'other feeds into the locker with use of a capstan. We have only taken delivery of the Max so far, so the fit of the ROCNA is as of yet unknown, however I don't expect it to be much of a problem.

Also, I have acquired the fixed version of the Max. If it doesn't work out so well, I may not be able to change anchors as they were both special ordered.

Thanks much for the advice.