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With the Gyb Easy you set the tension with the number of wraps. If you set sufficient tension to slow down the boom movement does that make normal mainsail adjustments harder? With the Dutchman you can adjust the tension from the cockpit but it seems with the Gyb Easy you have to re-rig. Am I correct?
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According to the video, there are some control lines that lead back to the cockpit, to winches or line stoppers. Unfortunately, the video doesn't really explain what their purpose is. Presumably, they provide a means to adjust the tension from the cockpit.

I like the simplicity of this concept, but watching the video I wonder how well it works? The jibes they were demonstrating seemed quite a bit faster and forceful than I'd expect with a brake. Also, it annoys me somewhat that I'd still feel the need to use a preventer after spending all that money.
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According to the video, there are some control lines that lead back to the cockpit, to winches or line stoppers. Unfortunately, the video doesn't really explain what their purpose is. Presumably, they provide a means to adjust the tension from the cockpit.

I like the simplicity of this concept, but watching the video I wonder how well it works? The jibes they were demonstrating seemed quite a bit faster and forceful than I'd expect with a brake. Also, it annoys me somewhat that I'd still feel the need to use a preventer after spending all that money.
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I agree. Installing a boom brake is on my Spring to do list. After looking at SD's installation it seems the Dutchman is the way to go. Two of my biggest concerns were introducing a tripping hazard and being able to have normal boom movement when not downwind. With the Dutchman you can easily release tension from the cockpit and solve those issues. With the Gyb Easy I'm not so sure. Of course the Dutchman is a bit expensive and the Gyb Easy at first look seemed like a cheaper alternative. Either way saving the rig is a lot less expensive than losing it, not to mention my head.
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Just be aware that you'll probably have to tweak the setup a bit to get the exact position of the boombrake mounting point right. The way I did it was by setting it up on a sliding padeye and then used a line to adjust the position until I found the one that worked best. On my boat, these padeyes slide along a track along the bottom of the boom.
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I would love to have more control of my boom swinging over and the dutchman sounds like the preferred method. Can someone hook me up with a nice dutchman link so I can see how it works? Thanks.
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If you Google Dutchman boom brake you'll get the link you're looking for.
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I would love to have more control of my boom swinging over and the dutchman sounds like the preferred method. Can someone hook me up with a nice dutchman link so I can see how it works? Thanks.
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I've been using a preventer where I rig a block on a wire pennant to a forward cleat, run a line from the end of the boom to the block and then back to a winch. That keeps the main pulled forward and unable to accidentally jibe, then sometimes I run a line from the aft of the boom to an aft cleat to completely stabilize the boom/main (light and or puffy winds).

SD, is the dutchman better than that? I ask you 'cus you know my boat well enough to answer, and have a dutchman. I rigged my own because I wanted prevent, not brake - but it's a real hassle when I do want to jibe (have to re-rig it all over again).
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Thanks for the link, John. It's pretty clear to me how these work now. I have the same set up as you, Chuckles...can't wait to see what the dog has to say. I also googled 'boom brake' and ended up at sailingdog's blog! Neat.
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I've been using a preventer where I rig a block on a wire pennant to a forward cleat, run a line from the end of the boom to the block and then back to a winch. That keeps the main pulled forward and unable to accidentally jibe, then sometimes I run a line from the aft of the boom to an aft cleat to completely stabilize the boom/main (light and or puffy winds).

SD, is the dutchman better than that? I ask you 'cus you know my boat well enough to answer, and have a dutchman. I rigged my own because I wanted prevent, not brake - but it's a real hassle when I do want to jibe (have to re-rig it all over again).
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Just curious why you run your preventer line forward. I've been running mine to snatch blocks on the toe rail near the aft shroud. Not a big deal to re-rig but no braking action like the Dutchman provides. Getting close to ordering the Dutchman but one things keeps gnawing at me. I don't have a lot of space between the boom and cabin top. If I attach the vang to the bottom of the Dutchman as their installation guide shows it seems to me I've really reduced the vang angle to the point where it would not be very effective. Maybe I'm missing something.
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