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Yes, the dutchman, once it is properly adjusted for the wind strength is basically a set and forget device. The main sail will come across the boat, unlike a boom rigged with a preventer, but it will do so in a relatively slow and controlled fashion, where no damage to people and rigging will occur. It also makes it very unlikely that the mainsail will capsize the boat, which can happen with a preventer that isn't released in time.

If you increase the tension on the Dutchman, the boom will effectively be slowed to the point that it might as well be on a preventer. But I generally don't recommend tensioning the boom brakeline that much... it really isn't necessary.

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I've been using a preventer where I rig a block on a wire pennant to a forward cleat, run a line from the end of the boom to the block and then back to a winch. That keeps the main pulled forward and unable to accidentally jibe, then sometimes I run a line from the aft of the boom to an aft cleat to completely stabilize the boom/main (light and or puffy winds).

SD, is the dutchman better than that? I ask you 'cus you know my boat well enough to answer, and have a dutchman. I rigged my own because I wanted prevent, not brake - but it's a real hassle when I do want to jibe (have to re-rig it all over again).
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Running the line forward instead of laterally increase the 'prevention' - my boom can not shift aftward at all. Running the another line aft allows me to fine tune fore and aft.
As rigged, the boom simply can not move irregardless of what the wind is doing.
I also trust my cleat more than my stanchions/toe rail to handle the load of 340 sq feet of mainsail (about 600 pounds at 20 knts)- more when you figure the shock load). PCI says they are back plated/safe, but I've seen the underside (don't ask me why, it's embarassing) and they are NOT. They have nuts, washers, and lots of 5200, but not plates.
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If you want to see a photo of the boom brake setup on my boat, let me know.
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Running the line forward instead of laterally increase the 'prevention' - my boom can not shift aftward at all. Running the another line aft allows me to fine tune fore and aft.
As rigged, the boom simply can not move irregardless of what the wind is doing.
I also trust my cleat more than my stanchions/toe rail to handle the load of 340 sq feet of mainsail (about 600 pounds at 20 knts)- more when you figure the shock load). PCI says they are back plated/safe, but I've seen the underside (don't ask me why, it's embarassing) and they are NOT. They have nuts, washers, and lots of 5200, but not plates.
Chuckles,
Thanks. I've got mid-ship cleats that I could possible use instead of the rail. I'll have to check that out. Good point.
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